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    Thread: Fast efi 2.0

    1. #81
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      Bilco547,



      Can we get some details about the engine? At 40 G's I gotta think it is pretty radical and possibly outside the realm of a "self tuning" efi system. I've always heard big heads, cams, etc don't really work too well with those setups. Since I'm planning for a radical bbc as well, I'm interested in hearing how this pans out.


    2. #82
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      Any updates??
      Tom

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      Quote Originally Posted by Fuelie Nova View Post
      Any updates??
      Tom

      My system is running Great....

    4. #84
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      Quote Originally Posted by obengston View Post
      My system is running Great....
      Synopsis... So after replacing the faulty MAP sensor you (1) took care of the low voltage at idle by changing the alternater pulley, (2) moved the ground cable and (3) added fuel for the "acceleration" lean out and everything is now happy? Anything we missed?
      Michael Mosley
      1968 Barracuda
      Plano, TX

      https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...in-Plano-Texas

    5. #85
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      Quote Originally Posted by mmosley View Post
      Synopsis... So after replacing the faulty MAP sensor you (1) took care of the low voltage at idle by changing the alternater pulley, (2) moved the ground cable and (3) added fuel for the "acceleration" lean out and everything is now happy? Anything we missed?


      Yes. Just to add It kept shutting off (would display lost communication for a fraction of a second, either at low RPM or driving). So I replaced my pulley to keep the voltage from dropping, as well I added two grounds from my engine block to the body, and removed the one to the frame, which I believe may have been the cause of the shutting off, because it would shut off running down the road with the voltage showing 14. either one was a result of it not shutting off anymore. I have driven it at least 300 miles, and its running better every drive. My suggestion to anyone is make sure you video tap your intitial start up, include the data screen on the hand held. Thankfully I did and then was able to compare it with the screen later when the map sensor went out.

    6. #86
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      Good to hear it all worked out for you. Can't wait to get mine set up and running.

    7. #87
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      I am curious for the guys using this setup, how much vacuum do you have at idle? I would like to try one but I only have 8-9" at idle and not sure thats enough.
      Tom

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      Quote Originally Posted by Fuelie Nova View Post
      I am curious for the guys using this setup, how much vacuum do you have at idle? I would like to try one but I only have 8-9" at idle and not sure thats enough.
      Tom
      My vacuum is between 8-9...

    9. #89
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      Well here is where I am at with my EZ-EFI 2.0 install (complete master kit with in-tank pump)First I was shorted one 6-an to 8-an adapter,i ordered a new one from fast for $12 cause I did not want to haggle with them.... I ended up using a new tank from Tanks inc. to simplify my change to in-tank set up (very nice)... After taking my time carefully routing all hoses, wires etc... it was time to power up the fuel pump and then I heard the sound off fuel leaking, it was dumping from behind the front fuel bowl cover. So I called FAST and was told they probably pinched a O-ring on a injector during manufacture and to ship it back at my cost ( $17 ) for warranty.... Now I am waiting and out $27more.... Very disappointing as I haven't cranked the engine yet to really discover how it performs.

    10. #90
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      Quote Originally Posted by Fastrun72 View Post
      Well here is where I am at with my EZ-EFI 2.0 install (complete master kit with in-tank pump)First I was shorted one 6-an to 8-an adapter,i ordered a new one from fast for $12 cause I did not want to haggle with them.... I ended up using a new tank from Tanks inc. to simplify my change to in-tank set up (very nice)... After taking my time carefully routing all hoses, wires etc... it was time to power up the fuel pump and then I heard the sound off fuel leaking, it was dumping from behind the front fuel bowl cover. So I called FAST and was told they probably pinched a O-ring on a injector during manufacture and to ship it back at my cost ( $17 ) for warranty.... Now I am waiting and out $27more.... Very disappointing as I haven't cranked the engine yet to really discover how it performs.
      Well that sucks.... I pulled the front cover on mine to install the new sensor because the oring/rubber was pinched on it, I called Fast and they just sent me a new one (no charge), this way I didn't need to send the unit back.

    11. #91
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      Umm, no.

      Doesn't seem that there is anything FAST about this. I want to buy this product for my 496 in the worst way...but my Demon 850 has never lost its data signal!

      I really hope they fix this and have been especially not impressed with the stories of their support for an expensive product.
      Tim Tracy
      68 Camaro 496 / T56 - Never Finished
      68 Camaro Real Z/28 - Under Restoration
      67 Camaro Project - Never going to have time

    12. #92
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      After taking several months and researching as much as I can I ended up ordering the Holley Terminator system. I really liked the idea that you can update the ECU to a HP unit for no charge. Once looking at all the features of the HP I just felt it was a better system and 10% cheaper.
      It will be here monday.
      Tom

    13. #93
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      Its dec 21 2013 and my chevelle is still ****ed the fast ezi efi 2.0 sucks before we had this cold front I took my car out ran good with a few idle issues and stalls but it ran put it away the next day took it out to gas her up and started stalling had to keep idle at 3000 to get home would run and shut off the same thing it did before I rma d the whole system back to them after the ecu was rma back after the 02 sensor and then the iac .. I called them and they tell me its my msd box because the red light is off after the car is stalling with the key on so stupid me listens to them and buys a new msd 6 digital plus box I put it in 6am this morning and ran all new key on wires checking everything my irm number which show radio interference which is what they are claiming causes all the problems with this system is 00 and it still wont stay running im done going multiport fuel injection **** this self learning bull by fast if the system was sio awesome why wasn't it at sema this year and I asked david page he claimed it was old but the xfi was there and all the old systems also im contacting my lawyer in case they want to break balls I want to be reimbursed for a lot of **** because their system failed

    14. #94
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      MY advice stay far away from this system I have two friends who purchased it because of me and they are having major issues as well

    15. #95
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      Quote Originally Posted by Bilco547 View Post
      MY advice stay far away from this system I have two friends who purchased it because of me and they are having major issues as well
      Im not too far from long island pm me your contact info i am going through hell as well. This company as a whole is the worst there is for aftermarket performance. Run by dummies but they take your money nicely over the phone.

    16. #96
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      JUst a Update on mine . I have changed my New Locked out MSD (less than 300 miles on it) with the Fast Dual Sync Dizzy. The Car has been running extremely well (knock on wood). In the last 3-4 days I have taken it each day on a 50-80 cruise (very spirited driving), and it is responding really well...no issues. Drives like a champ, starts on 30deg weather without touching the throttle, response is great. Plugs look really great. Great having control over the AF, timing, etc. YThe more I drive at this point seems to be better every time. Again this is now so I will continue to drive and hammer it allot. Next I will test the nitrous on it.


      ****And I have to add this has nothing to do with the Fast "tech service" which I found to be amusing... All my issue I had whenever I called Tech support I would get the same old "Well what are you running...bla..bla ..bla.. and spend the next hour describing everything from my install to right prior to getting on the phone. With something this new, and expensive, they should be logging individual calls in so that the next 50 times you call they can go straight to where they was prior. Its like going to a doctor when your sick "Its a medical mystery", which this thing is not "medical"...

    17. #97
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      1 question, has anyone here run this set up on an LS motor yet? Ive been doing research and it seems that the majority of the problems have been experienced by those running MSD boxes. Now obviously I understand that the majority of people are running MSD boxes, so that may just be a coincidence. The only reason I bring it up is because the set up that FAST sells for the LS motor includes their ignition controller as well, which I hope, would eliminate any problems between the fuel injection and ignition electronics talking to each other.

    18. #98
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      Interesting MSD Locked out.

      Quote Originally Posted by obengston View Post
      JUst a Update on mine . I have changed my New Locked out MSD (less than 300 miles on it) with the Fast Dual Sync Dizzy. The Car has been running extremely well (knock on wood). In the last 3-4 days I have taken it each day on a 50-80 cruise (very spirited driving), and it is responding really well...no issues. Drives like a champ, starts on 30deg weather without touching the throttle, response is great. Plugs look really great. Great having control over the AF, timing, etc. YThe more I drive at this point seems to be better every time. Again this is now so I will continue to drive and hammer it allot. Next I will test the nitrous on it.


      ****And I have to add this has nothing to do with the Fast "tech service" which I found to be amusing... All my issue I had whenever I called Tech support I would get the same old "Well what are you running...bla..bla ..bla.. and spend the next hour describing everything from my install to right prior to getting on the phone. With something this new, and expensive, they should be logging individual calls in so that the next 50 times you call they can go straight to where they was prior. Its like going to a doctor when your sick "Its a medical mystery", which this thing is not "medical"...

      I have had my Fast 2,0 injection system on order for a month now and still no delivery in sight. They do not keep their customers up dated and continue to miss promised delivery dates. On another note my discussions with tech service tells me even with the dual-sync distributor the ignition box is still required. I have the distributor and injection system paid for and on order so it would be nice to fully understand if the ignition box is really needed. Everything they sell as plug and play, in my world having to add a ignition box and coil doesn't qualify as plug and play. I'm also concerned as I have read a lot of quality issues on these units so now I have mixed feeling on keeping the system or cancelling and going with one of the other manufactures.

    19. #99
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      Quote Originally Posted by Devilsride View Post
      I have the distributor and injection system paid for and on order so it would be nice to fully understand if the ignition box is really needed. Everything they sell as plug and play, in my world having to add a ignition box and coil doesn't qualify as plug and play. I'm also concerned as I have read a lot of quality issues on these units so now I have mixed feeling on keeping the system or cancelling and going with one of the other manufactures.
      Something has to drive the coil... if you are not an expert you would be better served working through someone that is. I am working through a reseller that has all those details worked out for me but I have not yet made my final purchases. My understanding of the system is that you have to have some kind of ignition box. I could be wrong...
      Michael Mosley
      1968 Barracuda
      Plano, TX

      https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...in-Plano-Texas

    20. #100
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      You have to have the ignition box, the Dual sync only signals the computer/box. Again so far I have put about 1000 miles on it (after the trouble of getting it right) and still running great. I have tested the nitrous with it 4 times (with 100, and a 200 shot) and it performed good. I plan on taking it to the track soon and will do a couple of NA passes and a couple with the nitrous, so hopefully I want need the wrecker, but never know.

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