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    1. #581
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      This one is a cliffhanger!!!

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      drum roll!
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      Quote Originally Posted by andrewb70 View Post
      Once the shaft was bolted up, I measured my driveline angles. Since the front u-joint has been replaced with a CV joint, the front working angle is now irrelevant. The rear angle needs to be as low as possible without being zero. I adjusted my rear control arms so the rear working angle is .5 degrees with the pinion slightly down. This way, under power the pinion will want to climb and the angle should get less or increase slightly in the other direction.

      Test drive tomorrow.

      Andrew
      Great information here! Good luck with the test drive and enjoy the ear to ear grin!
      Jon U.

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    4. #584
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      Hello Everyone...

      I have to apologize for the less than timely update to this thread. It has been a very busy week and a crazy few days. As promised here are a few more pictures of the CV driveshaft from the DSS.





      On Wednesday I headed out from Pigeon Forge to Bowling Green, KY. It was the most pleasant drive I have ever done in my GTO. The vibration that I was experiencing before is now completely gone. The car was smooth as glass at all reasonable highway speeds. I ran it up to about 90 and there were no noticeable driveline vibrations that I could detect.

      From BG, KY I headed to Chicago to pick up my son. On Friday morning we headed out to the Lane Automotive Motor State Challenge. My goal for attending the event was to enjoy some time with my son and reconnect with some car friends. However, I couldn't resist taking my car on the Gingerman race track. I also figured that some track time will really test my newly rebuilt transmission and the new driveshaft. Gingerman has two long straights where the car can be easily taken up to over 120 mph.



      On Saturday we headed to the track, passed tech, and were ready to go. I ran three sessions with my son riding shotgun and managed to get into the to 16 in the Pro-Touring class which consisted of any vehicle older than 30 years. My best time was 1:55.xx At high speeds the driveline was super smooth and the car performed very well. No drama, no puking fluids, 200 degree water temp.

      I will post more later...

      Andrew
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    5. #585
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      Hello Everyone,

      I thought I would give everyone an update as to what I have been up to for the last week. As I posted earlier, I spent Father's Day weekend with my son at the Motor State Challenge. We had a great time and the car performed very well.

      On Monday (6-20-11), I picked up my daughter and we headed west. Our mission was to spend some quality time together and visit some of my friends. It also gave us an opportunity to see some of the most breathtaking scenery in the world. Monday evening we arrived safely in Lincoln, NE where we spent the night at my friend Brian's house. Brian is a great guy and he is actually the person that did the body work and paint on my car.

      Tuesday (6-21-11) morning we continued our journey west and made our first scenic stop. Well, perhaps the word "scenic" is not entirely accurate to describe Buford, WY, but the town is certainly unique. Buford, Wyoming is the highest town on I-80 between San Francisco and New York City. It also has the distinction of being the smallest town in the US, with a population of 1. Word has it that it used to be a population of 2, but the father of the man that lives in town passed away.



      From Buford, WY we traveled a little further west and reached our final destination, Laramie, Wyoming, where my good friend Rory lives. I've known Rory since high school and he is a dear friend and a fellow car and motorcycle enthusiast. Rory's current car is a very neat 1966 Corvair Corsa. The Corsa has a turbo charged engine that makes 180HP. It's a very clean, low mileage (25K miles) car that was repainted (by Brian) and has been slightly lowered. Very cool car! (fukk Ralph Nader. These cars are super cool.)



      On Wednesday (6-22-11), my daughter and I made our first trip over the Rocky Mountains. We headed west and reached the town of Centennial, WY. While Centennial is 100 times the size of Buford, it is still no more than a clearing in the road and the last stop before heading over Snowy Range.



      On our way up over Snowy Range we had a chance to make some stops at various scenic outlooks. The Rockies have received an exceptionally high snowfall this year and there is still much snow on the ground at higher elevations. In fact, Rory told me that as recently as two weeks before our visit, Snowy Range got over 6 inches of fresh snowfall.





      As we climbed higher in elevation, the snow pack got higher and more dense. We eventually made it over Snowy Range pass and had lunch in Saratoga, WY. The North Platte river runs through Saratoga, and it was very high and moving very fast. Quite an amazing sight to see.

      On Thursday (6-23-11) Rory took the day off and we headed to Estes Park, Colorado. Rory and I graduated from Park High School in Estes Park and he many of his close family reside there. Estes Park is a little tourist town with a population of about 5,000 in the winter and 50,000 in the summer. Many people have summer homes there, and millions of people pass through every summer on their way to Rocky Mountain National Park. We headed up Trail Ridge Road which connects Estes Park with Grand Lake. About a third of the way up we stopped at an outlook point to take some pictures. The scenery is simply breathtaking.



      Don't try this with your carbureted muscle car kids! This picture was taken at an altitude of about 9,000 feet. Modern day fuel with ethanol is prone to vapor lock in low pressure fuel systems. I doubt that my car would have made it up that high if it had a carburetor. My wideband O2 sensor showed a constant 14.0-14.9 AFR the whole way up.





      My daughter and Rory were having a good time, goofing off. I think the thin air was getting to them....LOL



      The drive over Trail Ridge road is even higher than Snowy Range. Trail Ridge road is the highest continuous road in the USA, reaching a peak of over 12,000 feet! The snow pack on the way up was even higher than Snowy Range.



      Passing just over the peak and heading down the western slope there is a little store that sells all sorts of souvenirs and trinkets.



      We headed down the western slope of the Rockies and reached the town of Grand Lake, CO. From there we headed to Walden, CO and eventually towards the road to Saratoga, WY. We crossed back over Snowy Range and ended up in Centennial, WY where I took the following picture.



      Before heading back (6-24-11) to Lincoln, NE, I snapped the following picture. It shows all the bugs we killed on the day before.



      We spent the night at Brian's house again and headed back to Chicago, IL on Saturday (2-25-11). While visiting Estes Park, Rory's father suggested that we make a stop at the Strategic Air and Space Museum, which is located between Lincoln and Omaha, NE. I am so glad we went. I always loved airplanes and actually wanted to be a pilot when I was younger. We pulled up and were greeted to the sight of several Air Force rockets.



      Once we stepped inside the front doors, this is what greeted us at the door!



      It was simply amazing to see the SR-71 Blackbird in person. It's hard to imagine that this plane could fly from New York to London in 1 hour and 55 minutes. In fact, the true top speed is still classified!

      The museum is full of really neat planes, helicopters, and space craft. I am sure that many of you eagle eyed people will spot numerous important aircraft in this picture:



      Overall this was an amazing trip. The opportunity to drive my favorite car and share quality time with my daughter was simply amazing. She will be 11 in October and was a trooper in the car. I plan on doing similar road trips in the summer with my kids for as long as they will hang out with me.

      My speedometer and consequently my odometer were not working for this trip, but using Google maps I was able to get a rough estimate of the total distance that I traveled. Here is a break down of the mileage. Keep in mind that this doesn't include minor trips here and there and the racing miles around Gingerman Raceway.

      Wednesday 6-15-2011
      Pigeon Forge, TN to Bowling Green, KY – 244

      Thursday 6-16-2011
      Bowling Green, KY to Geneva, IL – 439

      Friday 6-17-2011
      Geneva, IL to Watervliet, MI – 141
      Cruise -- 50

      Saturday 6-18-2011
      Gingerman Raceway 15 racing laps = 30 racing miles

      Sunday 6-19-2011
      Watervliet, MI to Geneva, IL – 141

      Monday 6-20-2011
      Geneva, IL to Lincoln, NE – 486

      Tuesday 6-21-2011
      Lincoln, NE to Laramie, WY – 490

      Wednesday 6-22-2011
      Laramie, WY to Saratoga, WY – 79
      Saratoga, WY to Laramie, WY - 79

      Thursday 6-23-11
      Laramie, WY to Estes Park, CO – 106
      Estes Park, CO to Grand Lake, Co – 47
      Grand Lake, CO to Walden, CO – 71
      Walden, CO to Riverside, WY – 49
      Riverside, WY to Centennial, WY – 50
      Centennial, WY to Laramie, WY – 30
      Total – 353 miles

      Friday 6-24-2011
      Laramie, WY to Lincoln, NE – 490

      Saturday 6-25-2011
      Lincoln, NE to Geneva, IL – 486

      Sunday 6-26-2011
      Geneva, IL to Pigeon Forge, TN – 601

      Grand Total = 4,379

      At the end of my road trip I traveled nearly 4,400 miles in my GTO. The car ran beautifully and without any high speed vibrations. Both Nebraska and Wyoming have 75 mph speed limits on the highways, which means going 85 mph is not a huge deal. The GTO does 85 mph at about 2,400 RPM and is smooth as silk. I want to thank the following people and companies for making this trip possible:

      Bill Howell - Without your generous help and hospitality, this trip would not be remotely possible.

      Rory and Brian - You are my dear friends and I appreciate everything you two have done for me over the years.

      The Driveshaft Shop - Without Frank's innovation and attention to detail, my car would still be shaking itself apart at speeds over 75 mph.

      Global West - Their various suspension components have taken a licking and kept on ticking.

      ATS - Their spindles are amazing and allow me to use the very effective, OEM quality C6 Z06 brakes on the front.

      GM - The LSx engine family is amazing and makes road trips like this possible. Without the modern engine and EFI my car would never have traveled over the high altitudes or gotten more than 20 MPG on the trip.

      Mike Norris - Mike's tuning smoothed out a few rough spots in my tune and made the journey trouble free.

      Detroit Speed and Engineering - The Midwest is plagued by severe summer storms. DSE's modern windshield wiper system kept my windshield clean and allowed me to navigate safely through the inclement weather.

      In the end, I want everyone to take trips in their favorite cars. We spend years and thousands of dollars building our dream cars, and unfortunately many end up sitting pretty in the garage without having a chance to do what they were built to do: DRIVE!!!

      Andrew
      1970 GTO Version 3.0
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    6. #586
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      Andrew Nice write up I enjoyed it very much. It was like your own, lone power tour. Glad to hear the car ran well and you enjoyed the ride. Your kids must have been thrilled. I would love to see the SR71 in person. Its my favorite plane. Thanks for posting.
      Wayne
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    7. #587
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      Great post Andrew! So glad the car ran flawlessly. A couple more tracks and you could've put a One Lap wrap on your car...
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    8. #588
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      Great memories for you and your kids.

      Enjoyed the tech and pics as well.
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      Dude!!! you da man. You were racing that thing in Michigan what 10 days ago. Very cool, Ron
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      What a great story, very cool to take a classic car with modern innovations on a solo trip. The bonus was doing this with your kids, memories for a life time. Congratulations Andrew, well done.

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      Awesome trip and experiences!! Thanks for sharing!!
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    12. #592
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      Cool trip & pics!
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    13. #593
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      Very cool trip. I'd love to do something like that! Great pics too. Extremely jeaolous ;)

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      Thanks for the kind words guys. It was really an amazing trip.

      Ron,
      You are correct. I raced the car at Gingerman on that Saturday and on Monday my daughter and I hit the road for Wyoming. I didn't do half bad at Gingerman either.

      Andrew
      Last edited by andrewb70; 06-29-2011 at 08:14 PM.
      1970 GTO Version 3.0
      1967 Cougar build
      GM High-Tech Performance feature
      My YouTube Channel Please Subscribe!
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      I deliver what EFI promises.
      Remote Holley EFI tuning.
      Please get in touch if I can be of service.

      "You were the gun, your voice was the trigger, your bravery was the barrel, your eyes were the bullets." ~ Her

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      Quote Originally Posted by andrewb70 View Post
      Thanks for the kind words guys. It was really an amazing trip.

      Ron,
      You are correct. I raced the car at Gingerman on that Saturday and on Monday my daughter and I hit the road for Wyoming. I didn't do half bad at Gingerman either.

      Andrew
      And there you have it folks, the epitome of "Pro Touring". Had a great time reading the story Andrew.
      Last edited by andrewb70; 06-29-2011 at 08:14 PM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Nessumsar View Post
      And there you have it folks, the epitome of "Pro Touring". Had a great time reading the story Andrew.
      Yep! Next time someone posts a 'define Pro-Touring' thread, just link this one...
      Ron in SoCal
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      I was getting light headed just reading about it! Thanks for the pics and writeup Andrew.

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      It's great to see a car that can perform on the track and function flawlessly on a long road trip. I think you have captured the true meaning of Pro-touring.

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      Man it just dont get any better than that!!

      Thanks for sharing that with us!

      PS It was good to hang out with you at RTMC!
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      I haven't been on pt in a longgggg time but it's good to see this project is still improving, an most importantly, it's being driven! Looks awesome!
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