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    As many of you know and many don't, my 1970 GTO was done in October of 2002.



    http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...gto/index.html

    Since then it has lived a rather quiet life. Mostly in storage. Due to some issues in my personal life and a lack of interest, the GTO was a bit neglected over the last 4-5 years. Well that changed this past weekend. I finally sold my fuel injected 502 big block. The engine will have a happy home in a Chevelle.

    Stay tuned for more details and future upgrades.

    Andrew
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    Andrew,

    Great news! I know what your saying,I finished the elky
    in 2001 and it looks pretty rode and put away wet lol.

    Actually it did even after I finished it..lol..

    Iam glad your 502 is gone! New plans are always good!

    It may be a little dusty,but can still kick serious butt.

    Glad to hear your on a new plan,feels good doesn't it?


    All the best!




    -Jim

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    well after reading the article I am excited to see the new plans!
    Colin Russ

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    Poncho power, maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PT Goat
    Poncho power, maybe?
    Hopefully
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    Keep the pics coming as you progress

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    Glad to hear you're getting back in the saddle Andrew.

    Can you let us in on your thoughts for the new power plant? Twin Turbocharged 455 maybe?

    Or better yet build a "RAM AIR V".

    I've seen 2 in person (One being Milt Schornack's) and they are colossal engines. If the Devil himself was gonna put a bad ass engine in his GTO...it would be a "RAM AIR V"

    By the way Andrew What engine originally came in your Goat? And do you still have it?


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    Thanks for the kind words guys. I am really excited about this project. This is my first car. Ever. As much as I tried talking myself into selling it, I just couldn't. At the same time I was starting to get bored. So the natural thing to do was to make some upgrades.

    The goals of the project are to reduce the overall weight of the car, improve the weight distribution, increase fuel economy, retain low to mid 12 second drag strip performance, improve serviceability through the use of as many OEM parts as possible, improve overall dependability, make adjustments to the suspension to improve handling, lower the stance slightly, and have FUN!

    After selling the big block and some other bits I had laying around, like the original GTO engine, my budget is about 12K. The original engine that was in the GTO went to a nice gentleman in NY state who plans to give it a nice home in a 70 GTO.

    Andrew
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewb70
    The goals of the project are to reduce the overall weight of the car, improve the weight distribution, increase fuel economy, retain low to mid 12 second drag strip performance, improve serviceability through the use of as many OEM parts as possible, improve overall dependability, make adjustments to the suspension to improve handling, lower the stance slightly, and have FUN!
    Sounds like it is getting LSx power :(

    All Aluminum Pontiac motor will cost waaay more, but it would be awesome.


    Hey, I like 'em all (Pontiac, Chevy, Olds, Buick, Mopars, Fords with Chevy motors, etc), but a car that nice needs a proper motor. Good luck with it, regardless what you put in it. Be sure to post progress pics.
    Tod
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    Quote Originally Posted by SixSpeed454SS
    Sounds like it is getting LSx power :(
    aint anything wrong with that... LSX's arent a chevy engine, they are a cross platform GM engine, they came in gto's, firebirds, etc...they have just as much a place in a gto as in a camaro...
    Colin Russ

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    WOW!!! My first car was a 1970 GTO. I wish I would have never sold it. I bought it when I was 15 and had it ready to go when I got my license. I still remember my Dad fussing me out because the first thing I did was remove the A/C. Now I won't even get in a car without it. Good luck and keep us posted. Weldon

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    Young Gun,

    Don't take offense. I love LSx motors. I've owned 2 of them myself, & would love to build a pro-touring '67 Mustang Fastback with a LS7 or LS9 in it . I just think a classic GTO should have a Pontiac motor. It is just an opinion.
    Tod
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    LSx is not a chevy....yada yada yada.... Neither is a 502. What chevy ever came out with a 502?

    Really though, Andrew I love your car with whatever motor you choose, but I at least have to try....what about a Butler aluminum block, 511 inch pontiac with wideport Eheads or a set of high ports? Man, that would be like a long lost child coming home.

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    You guys are right about LSx power. I played around with an LS6 on another project and I absolutely fell in love with those engines. I am not going to debate the various aspects of "true" Pontiac power vs. LSx power. However I will say this. At what point does an engine stop being a given brand? If I were to build an aluminum block "Pontiac" engine, I would not use one single OEM part. Everything would be aftermarket. I am also not sure how much weight an aluminum block "Pontiac" engine will save. I bet it will still tip the scales at over 500 pounds without accessories. An LSx engine is under 400 pounds bare, without exhaust manifolds or accessories.

    Andrew
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    Wow! You finished it the first time in 02? It doesn't seem like that long ago that I remembered seeing it for the first time. Good luck Andrew. It sounds like you have a reasonable plan
    Trey

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    Congrats on the sale! Keep us posted.

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    C'mon Andrew fuel-inject it if it makes you feel better.




    Surprised you sold you original engine. I'd kill to have the original drivetrains in any of my Goats. From a personal preferrence aswell as value. Did the original tranny go with the engine? What was the original engine/tranny setup in your car?



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    Quote Originally Posted by SPECWARSQUID
    C'mon Andrew fuel-inject it if it makes you feel better.

    Surprised you sold you original engine. I'd kill to have the original drivetrains in any of my Goats. From a personal preferrence aswell as value. Did the original tranny go with the engine? What was the original engine/tranny setup in your car?

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    It will all be fuel injected, just like the big block was...LOL

    I don't care about value. I will never sell this car and it will never be stock. I got tired of staring at the original engine. I am happy that its going to a good home. Better that it get used instead of rusting away in my garage. It was a WT code 400, 350HP, the base GTO engine for 1970. The original transmission was long gone. I replaced it with an M22 back in the late 80s and later sold the M22 to a friend.

    The plan is to keep the current Richmond 6spd and not change anything from the bellhousing back.

    Andrew
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    Great news, Andrew. I'm glad that 502 has found some other car to inhabit. Now you're free to update the car one more time.

    Keep us posted. GatTagO is making a comeback!

    jp
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