Project Bike Truck

[Project Bike Truck]

I have been researching EPAS systems. The rabbit hole has been deep, that's for sure. I have come across two choices for me. One is the complete kit from EPAS Performance (https://epasperformance.com/products...alcon-ranchero) and the other is the ProStreet system from DCE Motorsports (http://www.dcemotorsport.com/Home/EPAS)

There is not much info on the EPAS Performance kit ($1500) provided their website, in relation to stats and details. I like that it's a complete kit for my car. Cut column and weld. I'd like to know some output torque numbers and stuff like that. Maybe I can't find it because my work blocked their site? Hmmmm.

The customer service from DCE is pretty amazing and they are fast to answer questions. Their Pro Street kit ($1600) is about the same cost for the MGU unit (MGU unit is not a till column. It’s just a motor meant to be installed inline with steering shaft), and they say it would work well for my project. They do recommend the Pro Race unit but that’s ($2900). Too much champagne for my beer budget.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these options? I am wondering if the EPAS Performance kit gets hot on the AutoX track, and if it has enough output to turn the big tires I plan on running.



Any input would be great!

Happy Thanksgiving!

[FusionSaleen]

I have been researching EPAS systems. The rabbit hole has been deep, that's for sure. I have come across two choices for me. One is the complete kit from EPAS Performance (https://epasperformance.com/products...alcon-ranchero) and the other is the ProStreet system from DCE Motorsports (http://www.dcemotorsport.com/Home/EPAS)

There is not much info on the EPAS Performance kit ($1500) provided their website, in relation to stats and details. I like that it's a complete kit for my car. Cut column and weld. I'd like to know some output torque numbers and stuff like that. Maybe I can't find it because my work blocked their site? Hmmmm.

The customer service from DCE is pretty amazing and they are fast to answer questions. Their Pro Street kit ($1600) is about the same cost for the MGU unit (MGU unit is not a till column. It’s just a motor meant to be installed inline with steering shaft), and they say it would work well for my project. They do recommend the Pro Race unit but that’s ($2900). Too much champagne for my beer budget.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these options? I am wondering if the EPAS Performance kit gets hot on the AutoX track, and if it has enough output to turn the big tires I plan on running.

Any input would be great!

Happy Thanksgiving!

Stay away !!!! look at a borgeson steering box for your setup I have great luck with them on the last 3 mustangs.

[Project Bike Truck]

Stay away !!!! look at a borgeson steering box for your setup I have great luck with them on the last 3 mustangs.

Wow please elaborate? Why stay away, have you seen problems? most of the PT cars I have seen recently are running it.

I have a Mustang Quick steering Box (manual) and Shelby Quick Steer idler and pitman arm. I just got from Open Tracker. If it was up to me I would have no power steering but my concern is with the taller and wider front tires it will be too hard to steer at low speed.

Thanks, I value your feedback.

[FusionSaleen]

Wow please elaborate? Why stay away, have you seen problems? most of the PT cars I have seen recently are running it.

I have a Mustang Quick steering Box (manual) and Shelby Quick Steer idler and pitman arm. I just got from Open Tracker. If it was up to me I would have no power steering but my concern is with the taller and wider front tires it will be too hard to steer at low speed.

Thanks, I value your feedback.

I talked to a few people that have run Elc power steering kits and have them go out and they say the car will become undrivable when they go out.

and why play with a under dash unit when you have all the room in the world under the hood with that 2.3 and you can run all ford OEM brackets for the PS pump
if you want to see one on a car and see how the feel is I have the 70 MACH1 and the 72 Maverick you can come by and take a look at.

[Boosted Falcon]

I was looking hard at a EPS system and actually got a chance to drive a few builds with it. The cars I drove I didn't like the lack of on center feel. I have talked to a few that say they have found a solution. I also looked at going with a Toyota MR2 electric power steering pump with the Honda Accord relay box (I have one I will sell) which looks to be a good solution but with the turbo plumbing I am thinking I am going to tight on space. I have settled on a Ford E250 EB Trans Van pump for my power rack and making a mount to fit my application. The Van pump will actually bolt on but hangs too low for the Falcon.

[Project Bike Truck]

I was looking hard at a EPS system and actually got a chance to drive a few builds with it. The cars I drove I didn't like the lack of on center feel. I have talked to a few that say they have found a solution. I also looked at going with a Toyota MR2 electric power steering pump with the Honda Accord relay box (I have one I will sell) which looks to be a good solution but with the turbo plumbing I am thinking I am going to tight on space. I have settled on a Ford E250 EB Trans Van pump for my power rack and making a mount to fit my application. The Van pump will actually bolt on but hangs too low for the Falcon.

You have done some research for sure to make your set up.

[Project Bike Truck]

I talked to a few people that have run Elc power steering kits and have them go out and they say the car will become undrivable when they go out.

and why play with a under dash unit when you have all the room in the world under the hood with that 2.3 and you can run all ford OEM brackets for the PS pump
if you want to see one on a car and see how the feel is I have the 70 MACH1 and the 72 Maverick you can come by and take a look at.

So my first question to both the manufacturers I mentioned was that and they both said it just goes back to non assisted steering. I wonder what system they used?

As for the engine bay I’d like to keep all that stuff out of it. Keep it a bit more simple. I think the under dashboard might be a bit busy after the install but I’m also most likely going to do a floor mount pedal assembly.

Again thankful for your response and sharing your experiences with me. This helps a lot.

[rustomatic]

I used a Unisteer (heavy duty) electric power setup in a previous iteration of my Falcon for a couple of years, with very good results. I don't even know if they sell it anymore, but given the prices you've posted, it was a pretty good deal. It was basically a motor, a computer control unit (non-adjustable), and some u-joints. I welded the mounting plate into the firewall (reinforced first), and it kind of existed like part of my steering column. I did several autocrosses and road course track days with the setup (15x8/225-45 square setup), and only had one very minor hiccup in the blazing sun at an autocross (I did autocross passes back to back for 2.5 hours at an optima event as well, with no problems). On top of the motor, I was using a 1.5:1 quickener, which sped up the crappy Unisteer rack I had at the time. Overall, the setup was crazily complicated, but it worked pretty well.

Many have had very good results with the Prius setup--AndrewB on here is doing one presently on his Cougar. If you have the urge to dig into an '08 Prius (free!), I have one rotting in my yard after my wife crashed it (someone crashed into her, more accurately) a couple months back . . .

Fab work looks awesome so far, by the way!

I have been researching EPAS systems. The rabbit hole has been deep, that's for sure. I have come across two choices for me. One is the complete kit from EPAS Performance (https://epasperformance.com/products...alcon-ranchero) and the other is the ProStreet system from DCE Motorsports (http://www.dcemotorsport.com/Home/EPAS)

There is not much info on the EPAS Performance kit ($1500) provided their website, in relation to stats and details. I like that it's a complete kit for my car. Cut column and weld. I'd like to know some output torque numbers and stuff like that. Maybe I can't find it because my work blocked their site? Hmmmm.

The customer service from DCE is pretty amazing and they are fast to answer questions. Their Pro Street kit ($1600) is about the same cost for the MGU unit (MGU unit is not a till column. It’s just a motor meant to be installed inline with steering shaft), and they say it would work well for my project. They do recommend the Pro Race unit but that’s ($2900). Too much champagne for my beer budget.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these options? I am wondering if the EPAS Performance kit gets hot on the AutoX track, and if it has enough output to turn the big tires I plan on running.

Any input would be great!

Happy Thanksgiving!

[Project Bike Truck]

I used a Unisteer (heavy duty) electric power setup in a previous iteration of my Falcon for a couple of years, with very good results. I don't even know if they sell it anymore, but given the prices you've posted, it was a pretty good deal. It was basically a motor, a computer control unit (non-adjustable), and some u-joints. I welded the mounting plate into the firewall (reinforced first), and it kind of existed like part of my steering column. I did several autocrosses and road course track days with the setup (15x8/225-45 square setup), and only had one very minor hiccup in the blazing sun at an autocross (I did autocross passes back to back for 2.5 hours at an optima event as well, with no problems). On top of the motor, I was using a 1.5:1 quickener, which sped up the crappy Unisteer rack I had at the time. Overall, the setup was crazily complicated, but it worked pretty well.

Many have had very good results with the Prius setup--AndrewB on here is doing one presently on his Cougar. If you have the urge to dig into an '08 Prius (free!), I have one rotting in my yard after my wife crashed it (someone crashed into her, more accurately) a couple months back . . .

Fab work looks awesome so far, by the way!

Thanks I’ll look into that one as well. I really appreciate the response. I’m not sure where you live but I’m hoping to not have to engineer more stuff than I already have to. It’s stressful for a guy like me.