Engine decision...

[Streetking]

Ok guys, first off, thanks for the input. Sorry I haven't responded til now, I went to a car show during the day yesterday, cruise in last night. After finally driving my car around yesterday, I here is my take. The car drives extremely well, has great street manners, runs cool with the a/c on and does what it supposed to. As in my first post, I will not be using this car for any sort of track use. I might run it down the 1/4 mile on street tires for kicks. I have only DSE frame connectors and as Steevo pointed out, if it ever hooks, it wouldn't be pretty. For those of you that really know me, you know whenever I go to the track, I run the hell out of my cars. I just couldn't do it to this car. I have been looking at various engines and I'm going back to my original gut feeling about running a big block. I have other high-tech hot rods so I'm not looking for anything exotic, although you guys have come up with some interesting combinations. I spoke to Kyle earlier today and he has a brand new 514ci. motor(dynos over 700 on pump fuel) that he was going to put into one of his projects and I think I may be going that route. The car will be leaving tuesday to go back to DSE.



Again, as always, I thank everyone for their input/help,

SW

[Streetking]

Aluminum Big Block, EFI, sounds good. Especially if you want less weight, BB torque, and great sound. SW, still driving the Trans AM?

Yes Stuart, drove it yesterday. I heard about you new project, it should be really killer...

hope everthing is well,

SW

[Air Daddy]

I went to a car show during the day yesterday, cruise in last night.
SW

Glad you made it out of Whataburger without a scratch.
I'm sure that little punk would've gotten an ass whippin from everyone there.
Your car is even more impressive in person.
Love it!

See ya out there again, I'm sure.

-Fishman's buddy with the Hoosier hat.-

[Stuart Adams]

SW, Kyle was telling me about your camaro. Great car. Awesome in black. Your car is going back to DSE, now I know why my car at DSE keeps getting bumped out of line, LOL. Talk to you at SEMA.

[yody]

ooh, what happened? fight! fight! .....oh wait I can't instigate If I'm not there!

[yody]

I'd be interested to hear the specs on the 514, post them here so we can see what kinda engine it is.

[Streetking]

SW, Kyle was telling me about your camaro. Great car. Awesome in black. Your car is going back to DSE, now I know why my car at DSE keeps getting bumped out of line, LOL. Talk to you at SEMA.

I'm sure your car gets their "full" attention. I just wish they were closer to me, well maybe not, I don't think I could afford it if they were.. :icon_razz

Frank, thanks, I will see you out there again!

Yody, Kyle is going to send me all the specs tomorrow, I will let you know then..

SW

[Streetking]

ooh, what happened? fight! fight! .....oh wait I can't instigate If I'm not there!

I parked in a space and some kid started to pull right next to me so I move to the other side of the lot. I was talking to a couple of guys when this "hot rod" Montecarlo pulls up next to me. I stood next to my car and this guy swings his door wide open and I caught it just before it hit my car. You could here everyone that was standing there sigh, I just about had a heart attack. If I wasn't standing there, there would have been a big dent/scratch on my door! You would think cars guys would be more careful..

SW

[Ralph LoGrasso]

I parked in a space and some kid started to pull right next to me so I move to the other side of the lot. I was talking to a couple of guys when this "hot rod" Montecarlo pulls up next to me. I stood next to my car and this guy swings his door wide open and I caught it just before it hit my car. You could here everyone that was standing there sigh, I just about had a heart attack. If I wasn't standing there, there would have been a big dent/scratch on my door! You would think cars guys would be more careful..

SW

[]I HATE, HATE HATE HATE HATE, HAATTEEE people that park right next to you when you try to keep distance. People at car shows most of the time are no better than the lady at the supermarket. I park my Tahoe atleast 5 spaces away from people and there is still usually someone right next to me, the camaro almost never sees parking lots unattended for this reason. Most people have no respect for other people's property. Kind of like the parents who bring their little kids to car shows and the little kids run their hotwheels across your car...sorry, big pet peeve of mine [/]soapbox.

[ViperBlue68]

SW you need to go to the VBGarage and take a look at the monster in this 69...it'd prolly give u the bigblock fix your lookin for this is the members name 69camaro638

[69rs]

SW, the real question here is, what's gonna happen to your current motor and when are you gonna ship it over to me?!? That motor belongs in a 69 Camaro and I just happen to know of one!

[Steve1968LS2]

I parked in a space and some kid started to pull right next to me so I move to the other side of the lot. I was talking to a couple of guys when this "hot rod" Montecarlo pulls up next to me. I stood next to my car and this guy swings his door wide open and I caught it just before it hit my car. You could here everyone that was standing there sigh, I just about had a heart attack. If I wasn't standing there, there would have been a big dent/scratch on my door! You would think cars guys would be more careful..

SW

Unfortuantly having a "hot rod" does not in effect make one a "car guy"..

And you can't buy class.. glad it was only a close call.. or the stories I could tell of "joe public" and car events..

Can't wait to see your finished product..

[Streetking]

I'd be interested to hear the specs on the 514, post them here so we can see what kinda engine it is.

Here are the specs:

534 ci. 710hp/675trq
4340 Callies Crank
Ported Dart Pro 1 heads 325cc
2.25/1.88 valves
256/264 @.50
632/632 lift

SW

[yody]

get even better specs if you can, like
bore/stroke(i am assuming it is a 540 minus a little on the bore?
What type of cam(flat tappet, roller, solid, hydro, brand also)
intake/carb/efi?
compression
all the littel details like that
Sounds like a nice little motor! Do you know the price(or mind telling us?)

[Streetking]

get even better specs if you can, like
bore/stroke(i am assuming it is a 540 minus a little on the bore?
What type of cam(flat tappet, roller, solid, hydro, brand also)
intake/carb/efi?
compression
all the littel details like that
Sounds like a nice little motor! Do you know the price(or mind telling us?)

4.470 bore
4.250 stroke
10.2 compression
hydraulic roller
Price...between me&Kyle

SW

[yody]

sounds like a nice combo, just beware the "most of the time" a hydro roller in a BBC "should" limit the rpm capabilty to max 6,000 rpm. I would prefer a solid flat tappet, but with 700horse, who can complain! Sounds like a good motor, not exactly what I would build but seems to fit you bill perfect. One other thing is that that cam is preety mild for a 540, If you are looking for something with a somehwat nasty sound that cam might not make for the raspiest motor. However I might just be over nit-picking. I am sure it will more than overkill. Let us know what you decide!
(p.s) the cam I have in my 454 is
256/[email protected] 290/294, .680 lift solid roller, the idle actually is pretty tame, I think that is because it is a roller.

[Streetking]

What's the centerline on your cam? 110/112/114? I want mine to idle with the A/C on, but still sound/run good..

SW

[yody]

mine is a 110, but in a bigger cube motor you should definetly run at least a 112, even better would be 114 for the AC/power brakes, but considering that cam is pretty mild I would say use the 112LSA. The big cube BBC's can easily use a wider LSA, if you wan tthe nasty sound, you need a bigger cam. A Solid roller with something like
300/305 duration
265/270
.700 lift
would really waken that thing up! but the #'s you posted are already real nice for a hydro roller so it might not be necessary to tweak it. If you did go solid roller I would recommend using either
Isky
Lunati(make sure it is one of their newer grinds)
"custom" grind Comp cam
All on a billet core with a cast dist gear
ANd Isky red zone lifters
and the best springs you are willing to pay for Isky makes some really nice springs. Although a solid roller even with the top of the line stuff like that is still not 100% guaranteed to not come apart, especially a hot one like that.

[ProdigyCustoms]

The nasty sound you want comes from tight lobe centers. The tighter the LC's, the more potato, potato,potato it will have. It will also have a higher torque band and less torque down low. I think the 110 is probably a good compromise for you to have some runpty rump sound, lope a bit, but be able to turn on the A/C. 106 or 108 LC's would ive you more stereo through your pipes, but would make it a little more miserable.
I also do not like hydraulic rollers as they have a tendency to go flat up top, but this is not a RPM motor so it does not matter.