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    1. #24
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      Quote Originally Posted by yody
      looks like the guys from ATS have some kind of personal problem with SPeedtech, funny that a company that doesn't offer any suspenion parts would care so much if speedtech copied. If they didnt' copy you, why are you guys so determined to prove them wroong? Didn't take any money out of your pockets? Not that i really care either way if speedtech copied
      Cody-
      I, like yourself, call bull**** for what it is. DSE doesn't frequent the boards here, so they won' be in to defend themselves anytime soon. I feel that as manufacturers, we have the obligation to make good original parts that work like they are supposed to, for the best value we can to the end user.

      Speed-Tech is taking other manufacturers R&D, and making a copy-cat, sub standard part. I'll be the first to point out that this is the wrong way to go about it. No other company on this board, save for ATS, knows more about what each tubular control arm really does on a frame. GW and DSE did their homework on the arm, did FEA testing on them, and released a solid product to the market. The DSE design has special beveled washers and machining on the cross shaft that was put in because of a stress point that casued shaft breakage. ST did not incorparate this into their mimic version of DSE crossshaft for reasons unknown. I'd guess to say that they never did an FEA test of their product to see what will really happen under load. You want to save $200 bucks for an untested copied part? I'll pay the extra cash to make sure I'm safe in my car at speed, and on track days.
      You guys a say you don't care that they copied parts, but at least you aknowledge they they did.
      As soon as ST comes out with an original part that shows some of their own R&D was put into the product, I will evaluate the part for what it is.



      The Detroit Speeds and Global West's of the world are in no harm of being put of out business by guys like Speed Tech. Without the leaders and innovators that make the first part, they would have nothing to copy from.
      Tyler





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