American Motors Xperimental full frame

[Ron S]

I think it was a little of both. I have taken some time to fine tune on the car which made it light years better then it was. I do think the truck arm design has a tendency to push, due to the way the arms drive the power from the center of the car. Most other designs, leaf springs, 4 link, 3 link, even my torque arm on this AMC drive the car from just in front of the rear tires. The torque arm power pulls up and down on the center, but it drives from the links just in front of the rear tires. I guess we will see how it works out, if I ever get a chance to work on this car again.

[shortrack]

Does the car have an adjustable track bar? If my car was tight I would go down a round or two on the track bar to loosen it up.

In the pic it looks like the end of the track bar and and the shock mount are connected but they arn't lol theyre about an inch apart

[Ron S]

Mine has massive adjustability. Found that the Nascar stuff is designed with the panhard bar way below the rear axle centerline, which is great for 200mph high banks of Daytona. Not so great for short track road courses, and autocrosses. What I found was that those mounts actually had to be cut off the truck arms and frame and moved up a bit to get the car to work right. Car seemed to like just slightly below axle centerline which was not obtainable with the used Nascar stuff I had. Once I got the adjustments close the car behaved much, much better.

[RMMiller]

Any progress? Saw this posted on Facebook and thought of your build.

[sdg0080]

The world wants to know what happened to this build...

[Godbolt]

+1 !

[RMMiller]

From a post in his Mustang thread on 3/19/15;

I was really close to burn out on the other car, so I stepped away for a while. Been working on some other funky projects which seemed much less stressful that are close to being completed. Once they are done I feel I can hit the AMX hard and stay on it until completion. I will keep you posted.

[Ron S]

The burnout thing was about right. Didn't stop me from building on some other stuff that wasn't Pro Touring, but I think I'm back in the groove. Car is in the working bay of the garage, jacked up and leveled, awaiting my direction. Have spent several days sitting in a chair, drinking more then one cold one, trying to remember where I left off. I now have a game plan, and should be hitting it hard soon.

[Martin71RS]

Good to see you're getting back into it Ron! :-)

[sdg0080]

Glad to see it being brought back. I can relate to getting tired of working on something.

[Godbolt]

The burnout thing was about right. Didn't stop me from building on some other stuff that wasn't Pro Touring, but I think I'm back in the groove. Car is in the working bay of the garage, jacked up and leveled, awaiting my direction. Have spent several days sitting in a chair, drinking more then one cold one, trying to remember where I left off. I now have a game plan, and should be hitting it hard soon.

Excellent. Looking forward to it. The work to date is amazing and it is most definitely a project worth finishing.

[Ron S]

Funny Godbolt, I did Drag Week last year with a bunch of crazy Aussies from Brisbane. Great group of guys, a lot of 12 oz curls took place that week. They explained how hard it is to tag highly modified cars in Australia, and how the Police regularly impound such rides. That would really make me want to get organized with a lot of the other guys in the hobby, to change those laws. My brother inlaw just retired to somewhere on the Gold Coast close to Brisbane. He keeps asking my wife and I to visit, maybe one of these days we will.

[Godbolt]

Make sure you do and look me up if you visit. Can recommend some places and things to do.

The laws here are stupid as regards modified cars. The inconsistencies as to what is deemed street legal are ridiculous and have little to do with actual safety. There is always a push on but the bureaucracy is pretty entrenched. The popular consensus is that we are "hoons" rather than vehicle enthusiasts. In reality we invest a lot of time, energy, money and passion into our interest. This means $ and jobs.

Curiously the best organised are a group that got special classification for "street rods" which means if you have a pre-1949 frame you can stuff a supercharged big block or just about anything in, do all sorts of modifications and be road legal in a vehicle that otherwise is down right unsafe compared to mine. Crazy,but hey, that's the law.

Great job on your mustang and the amx. Truly inspiring stuff.

[Ant]

Progress??

[chunger]

@javelin66 - so, you're looking to us to fund your project?

And you can't even start you're own thread?

[Godbolt]

Can the mods remove this? Looks like he posted the same fund me crap in various places.

[andrewb70]

@javelin66 - so, you're looking to us to fund your project?

And you can't even start you're own thread?

https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...ot-javelin-you

Andrew

[chunger]

Andrew,

Yea, I saw that later too.

But, my point is, don't spam other threads looking for money. Keep the spam in your own thread where I can ignore it.

[andrewb70]

Andrew,

Yea, I saw that later too.

But, my point is, don't spam other threads looking for money. Keep the spam in your own thread where I can ignore it.

Agreed, which is why I deleted his post.

Andrew

[Ron S]

After a couple of year hiatus, I'm finally getting back on this car. Working with Ron Sutton on a different suspension design, the torque arm I designed in the car he feels would be great for autocross, but not so great on the road course. He designed a decoupled 3 link for the rear, which I have just begun to fabricate. Trying to fit these mounts in my already busy chassis was a lot more difficult then I thought. Funny I ended up not having to move one bar, at least not so far.

I will leave the torque arm mounts in place and try both designs to see the difference. Hoping to stay the course and get this thing done.