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[Mean 69]

Funny thing about suspension geometry. After some basic reading you will be able to walk up to any pro-touring car and--with a quick glance--pretty much know if it's done right or not. It's a cool feeling.

I couldn't agree more, and to many of us, it is more than just a hobby, it is an absolute, and complete obsession. I think that is part of the reason that folks get so animated when it gets to the nitty gritty, such as myself.

I have gotten used to the repeat questions, to be honest. I don't even open the thread, it is a lot of extra noise, but that part doesn't really bother me too much. I agree, the dudes who have repeat questions will usually get them answered by people willing to spend their time answering. No sweat. My peeve is when folks bring empty claims, or worse, flat out wrong claims. I guess I'll just keep my mouth (keyboard) shut if it happens again.



Mark

[parsonsj]

when folks bring empty claims, or worse, flat out wrong claims. I guess I'll just keep my mouth (keyboard) shut if it happens [again]

That's different then newbie repeated questions: empty or wrong claims need to be challenged immediately. Sending donkey-boy packing was the right thing to do.

Making a guy who asks if 265 tires will fit his Camaro feel small is what I was talking about.

jp

[baz67]

...265 tires will fit his Camaro...
jp

You mean you can?!Yes!!!

[Derek69SS]

As a newbie with very limited knowledge and experience, I'd like to shed some light on the repeat questions... I'm guilty of it too.

For example, Say I want to figure out what spring-rate/height I want in my car. I'm on a pretty tight budget, and I don't want to buy 5 sets of springs before I'm happy with it, and I definitely don't want to do the assembly/dissassembly 5 times either.

*note: these are all made-up just for the sake of an example* I search spring rates, and find 20 topics, 5 are GM A-bodys.

One about an Alum. headed BBC 65 wagon with a T-56 and the B-body spindles, 1-1/4" sway-bar and 18" wheels that will be running autocross 20 weekends/year. This topic, may be informative, but it applies to a car with a different weight, different wheels, different suspension, etc. I might be able to guess a little closer judging by this car, but definitely not the exact info I'm looking for.

How much will this help me with my SB/auto, stock spindle, '69 coupe on 15s which will see 98% street use?

While this is certainly different than "Will brakes from a '72 Nova fit my '69 Camaro", it is why the repeat questions come up. Most newbies with limited knowledge want to be told what is perfect for their application, not sort through several topics and figure out what might work based on what contradicting advice was given in 20 previous topics.

It's also very hard to figure out what's BS when your new. It all seems more "Gospel" when someone is personally taking their time to answer your specific question.

[Steve1968LS2]

That's different then newbie repeated questions: empty or wrong claims need to be challenged immediately. Sending donkey-boy packing was the right thing to do.

Making a guy who asks if 265 tires will fit his Camaro feel small is what I was talking about.

jp

You know how many times I get asked what lid is best on ls1tech.com???

It is just part of the "interweb experience"...

[nancejd]

I think we are on the right track here. Basically, if you don't want to answer a basic question in a polite and helpful way, just don't respond, it's easy to do nothing. We have a basic statement that says that people who know stuff, appreciate it when you make the effort to do a search, read what's there, and then ask your question. I think that's good advice for everyone, new or old to the board. Vendors should be held to a higher standard, and have some evidence of their claims. What more do we need?

[Steve Chryssos]

I couldn't agree more, and to many of us, it is more than just a hobby, it is an absolute, and complete obsession. I think that is part of the reason that folks get so animated when it gets to the nitty gritty, such as myself.

I have gotten used to the repeat questions, to be honest. I don't even open the thread, it is a lot of extra noise, but that part doesn't really bother me too much. I agree, the dudes who have repeat questions will usually get them answered by people willing to spend their time answering. No sweat. My peeve is when folks bring empty claims, or worse, flat out wrong claims. I guess I'll just keep my mouth (keyboard) shut if it happens again.
Mark

I sure hope that you speak up. Ask for a clarification and if it does not come, we should show him the door. Manufacturers need to be held to different standards than novice rodders.

Standard for Novice Rodders and Members In General
They need all the help we can provide. Weened on advertorials and the Learning Channel, their grey matter has been blackened by terms like bumpstick, slug and hoops. They are led to believe that bolt-on parts are commonplace. That they can build a car in 10 days or perform most mods in a 1/2 hour cause some guy did the install on Spike TV.
:rtfm: "Just open a can of Instant Mule, pour it in your gas tank, and you'll have your very own supercar." :rtfm: All that should be expected of novice members is that they practice a little forum etiquette. The rest is up to us.

Standard for Manufacturers and Vendors
Now a manufacturer or vendor on the other hand! It's expected that he knows what he's talking about. It's expected that he tested his product over and over again. And it's expected that he did more than just Rip-off and Duplicate (The other R&D). So I would hope that you will challenge claims. Since this is a club of functional cars, if any manufacturer can't corroborate functionality, we should show them the door. But do it quickly.

Better to flush the toilet, than to roll around in the poop.