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    1. #1
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      Quote Originally Posted by NightRider12 View Post
      Any experience ?
      This upgrade is useful just for stock power steering or also for rack and pinion ?
      Installing this upgrade on a stock power steering I can avoid to substitute it with a rack and pinion to have a better steering/handle ?

      Thanks
      Its designed for stock steering systems and will not work with Rack and Pinion, the Tru-Turn eliminates bump-steer, (1) the tall spindle that comes with the system it help the camber curve and gives you better handling (2) has shorter steering arms to increase steering ratio and allow a wider front rim and relocates the steering pivot higher (part one of the bumpsteer system) (3) the center link locates the inner tie rods to the correct pivot point to reduce bumpsteer (part two of the bumpsteer system) (4) Tie rod assemblies with billet adjuster sleeves and Hiem joints (the third part of the bump-steer system)





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      Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
      Its designed for stock steering systems and will not work with Rack and Pinion, the Tru-Turn eliminates bump-steer, (1) the tall spindle that comes with the system it help the camber curve and gives you better handling (2) has shorter steering arms to increase steering ratio and allow a wider front rim and relocates the steering pivot higher (part one of the bumpsteer system) (3) the center link locates the inner tie rods to the correct pivot point to reduce bumpsteer (part two of the bumpsteer system) (4) Tie rod assemblies with billet adjuster sleeves and Hiem joints (the third part of the bump-steer system)


      So, with the Tru Turn the car will handle better than a rack and pinion ?

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      Quote Originally Posted by NightRider12 View Post
      So, with the Tru Turn the car will handle better than a rack and pinion ?
      might not handle significantly better than a well dialed-in rack system but it's a great alternative to all the changes you might have to make to do a rack in some chassis setups. My Camaro is a pita to do a rack on but the ride tech will pretty much bolt right in with no welding, etc. It's all in what you feel best with.
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      the problem with adapting a rack to an early frame is in the packaging......if you look at a corvette chassis c4-c5-c6-whatever the rack sits as high as the middle of the front dampener pulley..... because that was the area needed to match the control arms pivot points, so on a camaro (rear steer 67-69) the rack would have to be so high, you would have to notch the pan all the way to the crank, to get the pivots points lined up....so they mount it low and some give you steering arms that almost make up for the arm inclinations, but now the racks arms are at such a weird angle they have to limit steering movement as not to bind the ball joints,..... so the cars still have noticeable bump steer, and less steering radius, I have seen some claim they don't limit steering or don't have bumpsteer....I call BS on that....but they can send me a rack if they like and we will put it on a stock chassis and see what it does

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      Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
      the problem with adapting a rack to an early frame is in the packaging......if you look at a corvette chassis c4-c5-c6-whatever the rack sits as high as the middle of the front dampener pulley..... because that was the area needed to match the control arms pivot points, so on a camaro (rear steer 67-69) the rack would have to be so high, you would have to notch the pan all the way to the crank, to get the pivots points lined up....so they mount it low and some give you steering arms that almost make up for the arm inclinations, but now the racks arms are at such a weird angle they have to limit steering movement as not to bind the ball joints,..... so the cars still have noticeable bump steer, and less steering radius, I have seen some claim they don't limited steering or don't have bumpsteer....I call BS on that....but they can send me a rack if they like and we will put it on a stock chassis and see what it does
      my 2nd gen is front-steer and for the little advantage to running a rack, I'd go with an improved version like what Ride Tech has to offer. I've seen people do racks on these cars but IMHO I don't think the work and fabrication outweighs the difference. A good quick ratio box with quality parts is still the way to go for me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Bygblok View Post
      my 2nd gen is front-steer and for the little advantage to running a rack, I'd go with an improved version like what Ride Tech has to offer. I've seen people do racks on these cars but IMHO I don't think the work and fabrication outweighs the difference. A good quick ratio box with quality parts is still the way to go for me.
      your 2nd gen has a GREAT advantage!! over first gens, its front steer!! awesome almost no deflection from surface imperfections and GM got the arm pivot points right...all that car needs is more castor and a quick ratio box!!! BAM its golden!

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      Quote Originally Posted by NightRider12 View Post
      So, with the Tru Turn the car will handle better than a rack and pinion ?
      I took a rack off my car to run the True Turn. Yes your car will handle better with the True Turn. I would stay away from the rack. I had bump steer issues & it is a packaging nightmare. Do the whole ridetech setup. You will not be disappointed.

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      Quote Originally Posted by eric1967 View Post
      I took a rack off my car to run the True Turn. Yes your car will handle better with the True Turn. I would stay away from the rack. I had bump steer issues & it is a packaging nightmare. Do the whole ridetech setup. You will not be disappointed.
      ^^^^listen to the TV star, TV stars always know what there talking about

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      Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
      ^^^^listen to the TV star, TV stars always know what there talking about
      You are funny




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