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      Concert Loud.

      Hey all,
      I am wanting to know what speaker brands are flat crazy loud??
      I am not talking bass loud I want Guitar Shredding Loud.
      anyone know what speakers could make it happen?

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      Eminence or sellenium
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      Back in the day it was JBL. I have no clue about today.
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      Quote Originally Posted by SS PUNISHER View Post
      Eminence or sellenium
      I looked them up and they dont look like car audio Speakers
      sorry If you miss read what I am looking for..
      Basically when I crank it in the car I want it to be like a rock stadium concert loud.

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      Diamond audio, focal, image dynamics, alpine, etc... Lots of power.
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      If you are only looking for loud then look for speakers that have high db per watt input.. 98 to 100db per 1 watt/1meter. Horns will be 110db per 1 watt/1m. 500hz and up..Ear bleed stuff. But not real sure why you would want that. They only need 50watts. (64watts on a 110db horn is 128db) Haven't seen horns in cars since Richard Clarks Grand National. The man who dominated in the late 80's.

      Speakerworks still around..

      http://www.usdaudio.com/sw/cars/buick/

      http://www.mobilesoundscience.com/f3...1992-ca-e-447/
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      Sounds like you like ROCK! With rock, you need to focus on midbass and midrange. You want the system to sound very clear and crisp to handle the fast moving rock music. I can give you my approach in the matter I am using in my 67 Camaro. I have built many systems in my day. I have tried many brands out there, both high-end and low-end. This time around I wanted to follow the KISS method and keep costs as low as possible. My car doesn't allow me to install a great deal of speakers and I did not want to either. I researched and found a phenomenal speaker. I installed a pair of Exodus Anarchy's in my lower kicks. I custom built a sealed enclosure closing off my car's kick panels. I am running Vintage Air, so that area was no longer in use. I paired them with some CDT ES-02's tweeters to make a very well matched 2-way front stage. The amp I am running is a JL Audio 450/4 amp. 150 watts/channel driving my midbasses and 75 watts/channel driving my highs. That simple 2-way setup will handle nearly all but the sub frequencies and does it quite well. It has a very strong drum kick to them and a well defined guitar strum. I topped the system off with 2 CDT SVC 8" subs powered with a JL Audio 500/1.

      With all that, you will still need to focus on installation. All that does not reach it's full potential without sound deadeners. I am using Dynamat Xtreme to handle the vibrational harmonics transmitted through the cars body structure and a closed cell foam to hand the actual sound deadening properties. Also, properly sized high quality wires will give you all that you could ever want and more.

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      I'm a big CDT Audio fan as well..reasonably priced (middle ground) if you are looking for very nice sound quality.

      Whenever someone asks what is a good soundsystem to go with, I always ask--how much do you want to spend and work from there.

      This is what I installed and I enjoy very much..

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      Concert loud, concert speakers.... Alot of people run them. I have 8 8s myself, loud as phuk! Lol
      Quote Originally Posted by band1t View Post
      I looked them up and they dont look like car audio Speakerssorry If you miss read what I am looking for..Basically when I crank it in the car I want it to be like a rock stadium concert loud.
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      Honestly, if you're asking as simple of a question as what brand is loud, I think any quality well thought out system would be plenty for you. Hell, my stereo consists of 6-1/2" components powered by the head unit and 2 ID8's on 500watts which is plenty loud in a regular cab truck.
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      Quote Originally Posted by RSX302 View Post
      If you are only looking for loud then look for speakers that have high db per watt input.. 98 to 100db per 1 watt/1meter. Horns will be 110db per 1 watt/1m. 500hz and up..Ear bleed stuff. But not real sure why you would want that. They only need 50watts. (64watts on a 110db horn is 128db) Haven't seen horns in cars since Richard Clarks Grand National. The man who dominated in the late 80's.

      Speakerworks still around..

      http://www.usdaudio.com/sw/cars/buick/

      http://www.mobilesoundscience.com/f3...1992-ca-e-447/
      Wow..another car audio guy on this forum. There are still a couple of cars running around with horns in them, and I know a few builds with horns going in them.

      Anything will play really loud if its crossed over correctly to do so. Distortion blows speakers, not volume. Tons of clean power, speakers that can handle it and a good crossover network will do wonders.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Joker69Camaro View Post
      Wow..another car audio guy on this forum. There are still a couple of cars running around with horns in them, and I know a few builds with horns going in them.

      Anything will play really loud if its crossed over correctly to do so. Distortion blows speakers, not volume. Tons of clean power, speakers that can handle it and a good crossover network will do wonders.

      First off I'd like to say--love the watts link pic. Cool shot

      Second, Absolutely agree! Power means crap if you can't control it.. Hey--kinda like our cars! LOL


      As for what sounds good??? Everybody is different, but I personnally like to set my cars up close to flat frequency response with soft dome tweeters from 80-20khz. I hate the 80hz bump that can be prominent on incorrect sub box designs and harsh highs from hard domes. I do however love a nice increase below 50hz.
      Ron DeRaad
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      Speaker Horns
      so something like this??
      would scream some

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      I agree with what others have said - a correctly matched set of speakers and amp(s) will have good volume. I guess I'm going to be the party pooper here though; I would caution you and others on listening to high volume in their cars. As a teen I always had it cranked up and now I have some partial hearing loss. It may seem cool and you may like it at the time, but losing your hearing sucks. I'm not saying I'm deaf, but it's definitely not what it used to be. I now set my gains on the amp(s) so that I can't turn it up so high as to damage my ears. Just my $.02, sorry to be a downer.

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      HAHA! He's right though, but so many people live life with their headphones stuck in their ears cranked up. The most popular word in 30 years will be "Hu"? I still compete for a manufacturer, and take great care of my ears to do so, but sometime, just getting down is needed.

      As for the OP, no those are not the horns we speak of.
      These are car audio horns
      http://www.streetbeatcaraudio.com/wp...ltra-horns.jpg


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      Hey Ron,



      Do you have any pictures of the speaker installation? I would love to see where you mounted the EF-80s in the front.

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      I agree that the biggest thing to look at is install, a 100K system can sound like dogsh!t if the install sucks. Then a $1000 system can sound like a concert hall with a great install.

      Look at Richard's Grand National 6 speakers,2 15" subs, 2 12" mid bass and 2 horn loaded compresion drivers. 6 1500 watt Amps. And has won just about every sound compititon. Just an example of less is more. My USACi world champion SQ car, used 5 speakers. I am planning a SQ system in my wagon.

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      Quote Originally Posted by andrewb70 View Post
      Hey Ron,

      Do you have any pictures of the speaker installation? I would love to see where you mounted the EF-80s in the front.

      Andrew
      Used 1/2" MDF and boxed/sealed the side vent cavities. Lots of space. 6.5's would be a piece of cake. 8's required a little metal massaging, but not to bad. I love the sound the 8's bring to the front. Next to the EF8 are the two HD4's and the soft dome DTR-26 tweeter above them.





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