Project "TTTA"

[Doug1]

and i didnt think that their was any car in charleston like this. so many pontiacs but i never see them.

Not too many serious Pontiacs around here, though there are a few. I have to go to Summerville this afternoon to check on my Blue TA to see how the paint work is coming. I am hoping it will get sprayed tomorrow... That is far from a sure thing though. LOL

[Doug1]

Wow great looking stuff. Got a couple questions I saw mention of a carbon hood and nose are these one off deals or are they going to be offered to the public.

Anvil is already working on making these parts for another car besides mine. At least that is what I understand. I think they will be available in the near future. They already make parts for the 70-73 Trans Ams.

[GM_muscle]

get any pics of the car as it sits in paint jail?

[Doug1]

get any pics of the car as it sits in paint jail?

Speaking about my blue 79... No pics. It was supposed to be sprayed this past weekend, then yesterday and now Thursday evening... We'll see. I need it done so he can get the other two 2nd gens that he has of mine painted. He does good work but if I knew how long it was going to take, I'd have given him only one car at a time.

[ProdigyCustoms]

You have to many projects, you need to sell that 2000 WS6............to me.

[Doug1]

You are at the top the list if I decide to get rid of it! I have had a few people try to get that thing and it is under a tarp. They hear about it or ask what is under the cover and then start trying to buy it. LOL It is still sitting exactly where it was when you were here though, it hasn't moved an inch.

[whayden2003]

Do you have someone over there u are talking to at anvil. I talked to Tyler and he said they had none that they were working on. I would love to get a the bandwagon with y'all so I can be in the mixed about updates on progress.

[Doug1]

You need to talk with Chad Fletcher at Fletcher's Customs. I'm in the process of getting a late 70's hood to him so that it can be used as a mold for the carbon fiber version. I don't know who he is working with but I know they are ready to move on it now so getting the hood is somewhat urgent.

[formula]

Hmmmmmmmm maybe I'll just send Chad my formula hood with your name on the box!! Only way anyone will ever make a late year cf formie hood haha

[fletcherscustoms]

WE have some things working that are gonna be huge for these cars. I will let the manufacturer make the formal annoucement when the time comes.

[cdoggy81]

Firebird specific, camaro specific or F-body specific?
I always get a little bummed when I see a new 70-73 camaro only part....

[ed1le]

subscribed!

[fletcherscustoms]

Its not really specific at all. Its a full back half job. Although the frame is designed around the 70-81 models 2nd gens. IT requires new floor, tubs ,and fabwork in the rear.

[Doug1]

Chad is back in action on the Triple Threat car now. I'll let him fill in the details when he gets time but here is a teaser pic of the work being done right now. The rear clip should be going in this week.

[fletcherscustoms]

Yeah we are full swing!! I forgot how much fun it is to cut the floors completly out of a car. It doesn't come out in one section. WE got the clip ready to go in the rear. Doing lots of measuring, calculations, and doing it all over again. No turning back once you get it welded in the car. So got to make sure everything is correct.

More pics coming this week

[fletcherscustoms]

Finally the long overdue update!! Its been a rough couple of months with some family medical issues, at just being swamped with everything else life can throw at you (flu, pneumonia, and now bronchitus). We finally got to concentrate 100% to this project starting last week. After roughly 10 hours with a plasma, sawzall and other assorted gadgets we got the floor cut out from the front seat mount back. We will be fabbing all new sheetmetal for the floors, trans tunnel, wheel tubs, and trunk floor. Next up came measuring, measuring, and measuring some more. The rear clip come over sized from Morrison and you cut it to fit the dimension to your liking. Once I was happy with all the measurements we then went forward with cutting off some of the front crossmember so that it would meet the measurement for inside to inside of the rockers. Before moving the clip under the car we made some 14"x 6" plates that were welded to the inner rocker structure to give something to mate the rear clip.

Once the plates were installed the clip slid under the car and right into place like it was suppossed to!! Getting all the dimensions and measurements correct is the key to this project. Once it was under the car I checked, and then double checked all the measurements again, again. Then actually decided to quit and sleep on it for night. After I was happy I proceeded to weld the front crossmember to the plates we made. The rear clip is now part of the car.

We still got some more to do before it comes off the jig table. I will be making some plates and gussets that use the rear bumper mount locations to tie into the new frame. Basically just like the factory did with the bumper to floor pieces they had installed. Once we get these plates done and welded in the car will come and go on the lift to have the front clip installed and then sit the car down on its on weight and start the sheetmetal work.

here are some pics

[Procharmo]

The 4-link is for straight line. converts to a 3-link for handling.

Great engineering on the 4 link.....however several leaf spring 2nd Gen Camaros have been mid to low 7's in the 1/4. There is one that may get to the 6's on 275's. Mary's car does just fine for Protouring fun on leaf springs.......do you really need a 4/3 link or do you just want it?!!!

[Doug1]

Great engineering on the 4 link.....however several leaf spring 2nd Gen Camaros have been mid to low 7's in the 1/4. There is one that may get to the 6's on 275's. Mary's car does just fine for Protouring fun on leaf springs.......do you really need a 4/3 link or do you just want it?!!!

To offically answer your question... This entire car is 100% "WANT". Right now I am a one man show and this car is way more car than I know how to drive. I'll take it, have fun with it, drive the snot out of it whenever I can, hopefully make some new friends who are like minded pro-touring folks who I can learn from. With a little luck, I hope to be able to get some of the better drivers to hop in this thing and show me what it can really do, so I can have goals to shoot for. I am already making some new friend just in the build process. It is my escape from the daily grind.


There is little doubt that the driver is the make or break piece the puzzle. The 4 link certainly helps in drag racing more than the 3 link helps in the autocross world but a good driver can win in anything set up "close enough." I don't see many cars that can do both drag racing and autocross except for some of the newer turbo imports or Corvettes. That is not my thing though.

The other things is that this is Pro-Touring... If we just built to what we need and not what we want, you'd never see all those 6 figure rebuilds of cars worth 4 figures to begin with. While my car is not to that level, I could certainly buy a new Corvette, 380z, etc. for less than I will spend to build this thing and would have bought a more refined car. But thousands of other folks would have the same thing. Building something that can out perform most of the new muscle from old American muscle is 1/2 the fun.

[PonchoJohn]

Liking this...

[Doug1]

The latest phone pics from Chad at Fletcher's Customs. The AME frame is IN! The complete floor has pretty much been cut out now. I wouldn't recognize the car if the red steering column wasn't still in there. That will go soon enough but it is cool to see the car change around it.