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    1. #21
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      Quote Originally Posted by camcojb View Post
      I thought Mark Stielow did the modding to make that work in a Ricks tank; I could be wrong though.
      Jody
      I spoke with Hector yesterday and they did a box with ball checks for Mark Stielow that utilized a Walboro pump.

      I will be doing the same, but trying to incorporate a sump and design in the A1000. I sent him a CAD drawing of my thoughts. Looks like it could work for both pump styles very well. Lots of baffling to control fuel in all directions.
      Ron DeRaad
      68 Camaro RSx
      Darton Sleeved LS9 - 434ci (4.155x4.00)
      AFR LSX245 Heads (12:1cr)
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    2. #22
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      Here's the drawings I sent. I was thinking if I do go with the sump, we could add metal around it to shooth it in to the tank to make it look more appealing.



      Ron DeRaad
      68 Camaro RSx
      Darton Sleeved LS9 - 434ci (4.155x4.00)
      AFR LSX245 Heads (12:1cr)
      660hp/588tq

    3. #23
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      Jody, that is exactly what i am thinking about doing for my wagon, but adding the 2 gallon tank right next to the stocker. This way here I go from 18 gallons to 20 gallons of capacity.

    4. #24
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      I know for carb use, a road race "makeup tank" with capacity of 1/2 gallon is enough to work just fine. a piece of 3" or 4" tube 12" tall would be plenty.
      David
      67 Camaro RS that will be faster than anything Mary owns.

    5. #25
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      Return looks really small and not sure I'd return fuel to the pickup. Looks like a killer baffled setup though.
      Todd

    6. #26
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      If the fuel is not returned to the pickup box then it can be pumped dry. The OE's do the same thing on fuel modules.
      VaporWorx. We Give You Gas http://www.vaporworx.com

    7. #27
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      Quote Originally Posted by RSX302 View Post
      Here's the drawings I sent. I was thinking if I do go with the sump, we could add metal around it to smooth it in to the tank to make it look more appealing.
      So did Rick or Hector get you an feedback on your tank design??
      Rich
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    8. #28
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      Quote Originally Posted by MCMLXIX View Post
      So did Rick or Hector get you an feedback on your tank design??
      Actually Hector is building this design as we speak. I need to call him to check on the progress.
      Ron DeRaad
      68 Camaro RSx
      Darton Sleeved LS9 - 434ci (4.155x4.00)
      AFR LSX245 Heads (12:1cr)
      660hp/588tq

    9. #29
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      Quote Originally Posted by Turbo67camaro View Post
      Anyone out there using a Rick's tank w/ EFI at the track without any starvation issues under hard cornering / braking / acceleration?

      Are their Stealth series tanks the best for the track?

      I'm looking for a tank setup that can handle the track and is easy to install.

      I'd rather not cut up my trunk floor to accomodate a fuel cell, but will if I have to, to prevent starvation.

      I have used Ricks on many fast cars...all of them will run deep into the 8 second zones...that should tell you something...

      Ask for a fuel sump and you will nver run out of fuel..a Nascar trick

      He has a good knowledge of pumps and tanks and how to make anything work..............BUT...big but

      You have to tell him what your plans are......

      Rick is good businessman and will take care of you.......wont find a better tank guy......

    10. #30
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      I have had both Rock Valley and Ricks tanks.. Unfortunately they both starve for fuel under a half tank when cornering. What is the best way to add a sump to these tanks, or fix this problem???
      Phillip
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    11. #31
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      Rick's tank fix

      bump. any progress on the issue of fuel starvation in Rick's tanks? Did Rick added a sump add-on part for their existing tanks?

    12. #32
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      any update? ive spoken with hector recently and am going to have a tank built for the chevelle. just looking for some updates....

      Tim
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    13. #33
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      bump....
      Tim

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    14. #34
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      My idea for a tank based off some Fuel Safe parts and one of thier internal surge tanks and three check balls.
      It has some directional vaines to direct fuel under cornering and acceleration....
      It will be mounted through the trunk floor. It should be about 3" in the trunk and te rest under the floor...



      The model was created in Google sketch up and is not so scale...
      It gives you the basic idea thats floating around in my head...
      It's a 3D model that you can flip and rotate for better viewing...
      I'll try and post some other views...
      Rich
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      1972 K5 Blazer - LQ9, 4L80e, NP205, D60, AAM 14BFF => http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=423432


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      Rich
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    16. #36
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      just wanted to say thank you guys for all this info--right when I needed it the most. I'm using an a1000 on a factory-style tank and it just isn't cutting it at all.

      I'm thinking of going the surge tank route--do you guys think that the return will give enough venting, or should a vent be incorporated into the surge tank as well?

    17. #37
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      Quote Originally Posted by formula View Post
      just wanted to say thank you guys for all this info--right when I needed it the most. I'm using an a1000 on a factory-style tank and it just isn't cutting it at all.

      I'm thinking of going the surge tank route--do you guys think that the return will give enough venting, or should a vent be incorporated into the surge tank as well?
      If you have a seperate external suge tank I would vent it as well. You might be able to vent it back to the main tank if your vent on the main tank can handle it. It might be easier then rigging up another vent... depends on your configuration I guess..
      Rich
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    18. #38
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      Quote Originally Posted by RSX302 View Post
      Although I don't know what the cost of building a tank is, I do know that stainless is more expensive and machining is a pain in the a$$. The only way I know to use every last drop of fuel is to run a deep sump or a separate tank fed by other pumps as mentioned. A flat bottom tank with a couple of baffles is good for basic street stuff and keeps the cost down, but won't deal with 1g stuff in any direction. Good ol' carburetor days had the float bowls to help out with this.
      Since I don't want to run multiple pumps in a street car, the next best thing is the sumped box with trap doors/ball checks. (this is what I'm currently running and it works well, but not to the last drop. You need at least 5 gals) I want to incorporate something simular into Rick's tank. I will check out what design they did for Mark's tank? (is it sumped?)I will be calling Hector tomorrow to see if he can shoot me a picture of the design.
      It's very tough to get all the fuel on a wide flat bottom when it sloshes in every direction. When you start adding more baffles and boxes, labor and machining add up. Not to mention working with my A1000!

      Have you found out anything new on how Hector modified tank for Mark? Is it something i could add my self later? ( i do have a good friend as welder ) my tank is brand new. I would send it back but its in Finland .. )

      If you could get pictures how it was modified?

    19. #39
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      I spoke with Hector about a tank for my 66 chevelle he says the re-designed a couple months ago. Has anyone purchased one of these tanks and if so what is the feed back? I am running a spectra now (complete garbage) cant really use the car the way it was built to be used. Just want to be sure the ricks tank is good before I shell out the money,some of the older reviews still say less than 1/2 tank it has issuses ( I assume that is on the old design) I have considered a surge tank off my spectra tank but I dont want to keep chasing the problem if I can just buy a ricks tank and be done with it.
      thanks

    20. #40
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      I have been trying to make EFI engines work with first Gen F cars since 1993. I have tried a lot of different things over the years.

      I will write a longer reply tonight on what I found that works and doesn't work.

      I can say Hector at Rick's has helped me make a few differnt set ups. All of them a little better than the last. The set up I put in JA and my new '69 works the best.

      Mark Stielow



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