Pro-touring is dead

**Bill Howell** · 10-09-2009

Screw this thread, real protouring is alive and well.
Congratulations John Parsons, $175K is a good number to me!

**mpozzi** · 10-09-2009

Originally Posted by Bill Howell

Screw this thread, real protouring is alive and well.
Congratulations John Parsons, $175K is a good number to me!

Couldn't agree more and just posted close to the same in another thread ... WOW and so cool for John.

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

**David Sloan** · 10-09-2009

Hellllllll ya! dead my a$$$$$$$$$$$$!
LOL!!

**Nine Ball** · 10-10-2009

Pro-Touring died a few years ago when guys started building turn-table showcars with $30K paint jobs and quit "touring" in them. LOL! Lets get back to driving cars, no matter how nice they might be. At least live up to the genre name!

As for DF, I don't think you will find many who really care what he says. Just his opinion, everyone has their own. I won't be building any retro $hitbox tacky 70s-80s cars in my lifetime.

**Steven** · 10-10-2009

I's simple, If you want to just go straight like Freiburger does, the pro-touring style is not for you. It's just big engines with fat tires out back with skinny ones out front. If you want you car to handle,(auto cross and road course), pro-touring is for you. There's no doubt that a strip prep car will not perform on an auto cross circut. I agree with others. Freibuger makes these statements just to piss off people and fellow editors just to see his name posted all over.

**trapin** · 10-10-2009

Friedburger represents the last of a lineage in this hobby that died long ago. His arrogance is all he and his minions really have left. We are pulling away and they are being left behind, still clinging to their tunnel ram intakes and wheelie bars. By claiming “Pro-Touring Is Dead” he is hoping that his position as editor of what is the most recognizable hot rodding publication in the world will help sway public opinion and interest of a genre that he (and a few others) mistakenly wrote off many years ago. It’s the final swing and a miss in his quest to regain the respectability he (and Hot Rod) once had.

Friedburger’s time is at an end, and I suspect he knows it. Why not go down swinging?

Cheers Dave. And best of luck to you.

**Mr.VENGEANCE** · 10-10-2009

look .... REALLY.. would you let this guy tell you whats hot or not?

for real?...

flip flops?...

FOR REAL???

...

**TonyHuntimer** · 10-10-2009

Originally Posted by Mr.VENGEANCE

look .... REALLY.. would you let this guy tell you whats hot or not?

for real?...

flip flops?...

David in thongs! I hope he swept the floor first before taking that priceless photo. I know how dirty auto parts store floors are. EWW!

When I was growing up, those were not flip flops...they were thongs.
Nowadays this is a thong...

**Mr.VENGEANCE** · 10-10-2009

thongs or flip flops, either way i would rather take EVSmotors big head ass' advice than that slumvillage thonglington refugee.. and neither of them do i respect in any way.. ahhahaha

**The Rook** · 10-10-2009

Originally Posted by MarkM66

Him considering it dead, means at one point it must of been "alive."

I wonder when that was?

I've never liked rat rods. Really, I just don't like them at car shows.

To try to compare it, wouldn't that be like taking an old, worn out, half dead donky to a horse show?

Three pages later and I am still laughing my arse off thinking about a half dead donky at a horse show....too funny!

**The Rook** · 10-10-2009

If Hot Rod said it, it must be true....so would all of the site sponsors please start threads in the for sale section with their 90% super clearance sale prices, I'll be the guy next year still driving my out dated 69 "pro-touring" Camaro that everyone points and laughs at! Someone has to be that guy!

**minendrews68** · 10-10-2009

Originally Posted by Novaguy73

whew....man its a good thing i havent sold my 73' Nova yet. With a little unrefining that thing is right up Daves alley. I guess i should untuck the back tires and shackle that bad boy up. Maybe airbrush an Iron Maiden graphic on the hood.

Complete it with a tape deck and a jean jacket. YEAH!!! Who wants to go kick some ass!!! I think ill put a comp 304 hydraulic in an 8:1 350. Top it it off with a dual tunnel ram, maybe a 4.86's out back and hang some Glasspacks off the headers to boot! Ill have a hotrod cover car

........Its either that or ill work on my GTO I guess ill have to do some thinking

I like DF for the most part but this "tastless resto" is a bold prediction

Your close but you've got some of the words wrong, like:
not comp 304 hydraulic....simply, "I gotta 3/4 cam", I know some of you guys remember.
yes, air shocks, so you can raise the rearend high enough you could drive a rice burner up under the rearend and with the rear end that high you most certainly have the most controllable car on the block, and don't worry about HID headlights because you now have headlights that point straight to the asphalt about 12" in front of the front bumper!
Of course a tunnel ram, but make sure you put two 780 double pumpers on so you can wash the cylinder walls down with all that gas, (not to mention all the raw gas going out those new "cherry bomb" glass packs!) , yes, hanging just off the collectors of those new headers.
How do I know? as ashamed as I am to say it, I've been there back in the early '70s....
Carl

**minendrews68** · 10-10-2009

Originally Posted by TonyHuntimerRaceHome

David in thongs! I hope he swept the floor first before taking that priceless photo. I know how dirty auto parts store floors are. EWW!

When I was growing up, those were not flip flops...they were thongs.
Nowadays this is a thong...

Dang Tony,

You just ain't right, I think my eyes are permanently damaged now!

**terryr** · 10-10-2009

Pro-touring is dead. Some guy said so. Take out your LSXs, mini-tubs, and big brakes.

Originally Posted by TonyHuntimerRaceHome

When I was growing up, those were not flip flops...they were thongs.
Nowadays this is a thong...

]

A few years ago I was staying in an apartment for a few months and made friends with several people. I saw one woman walking down the hall in flip-flops, and said "I see you wear thongs all the time." She looked shocked and said "how do you know that?"
I answered "they're there on your feet." She said "ohhh THOSE kind of thongs!!!" and turned beet red.

**BonzoHansen** · 10-10-2009

Long live PT, be it dead or alive.

**MonzaRacer** · 10-10-2009

Again I say it, shout ,yell and scream about what DF says or letg him run his stuff and you run yours. Certain magazines run racing, tubbed cars, more straightline oriented stuff. Others run tuner stuff, others run pro-touring stuff, others run rat rod and old cars done like "they used to" .
Heck just bought Rebel Rods and Hot Rod Deluxe as I really want to build an old rat rod for fun.
Never have all the cash to do what I want on everything but honestly you all are just beating a bandwagon and its all for nothing.
We now its not dead, just like I know where atleast a dozen Pro-Street cars are going together.
Now the Camaros are getting DSE front ends, but are keeping the traditional 4 link stuff in back BUT running some of the bigger 19 or 20 tires kind of like the Corvette runs or even bigger.
Now you guys can bad moth that but these cars are getting some up dates, some things left alone.
Too bad you all gotta step up and run around should like stupid 5 year olds , rather than let the man dig his own hole if the industry and hobby doesnt take to his ideas, then he will fade away.
Honestly I have seen more childish talk in this thread from friends I would have honestly thought would appreciate some of the work he has done.
While there are some of us running big blocks, or gen1/gen2 non LSx engines due to money, availability,and the fact we just dont have the parts yet.
I have years of collected parts, and hope to be able to use them, will I use/build and LSx in my cars, maybe if I get a deal someday, but till then I am gonna run my little bitty 283, twin turbo it sooner or later, put the little big block in the Caprice and build something hopefully that you all can appreciate, rather than bash.
A little hot rod, little Pro-Touring, little run what'cha brung.
Long live hot rods of any flavor.

**71firebird400** · 10-10-2009

I dunno...85K at BJ for Empty Nest ain't making it look popular!!

**BonzoHansen** · 10-10-2009

Originally Posted by 71firebird400

I dunno...85K at BJ for Empty Nest ain't making it look popular!!

Really (or is this sarcasm)? I can;t imagine almost any 69 Firebird going for that, excluding real TAs.

**71firebird400** · 10-10-2009

This is one of the flagship cars of this forum! 85K for a car that they said had 3000 hours into it? Yikes!!

**Mr.VENGEANCE** · 10-10-2009

flagship?... no, cannot co-sign that.. but it IS a nice car..

If you said penny or motiv8tr or 1lap camaro or Rons mustang.. yea.

make it a Camaro and youd be singing a different rap lyric.. but hell you ARE a pontiac guy so you should know that all too well.

pretty good for 6 posts too... ahhahah nerd burglar..

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