Wheel hub bearings with large flanges?

[Ripper]

I'm about to make my own uprights for my 74 Firebird (don't worry, none of the stock suspension will be kept) and I'm looking after some kind of cartridge hub bearing.
The thing is that I'm going with Porsche wheels and the bolt pattern is 5x130mm (app 5x5,25") which means the flange must be big enough so I can drill holes for a new bolt pattern.
I need a flange that's app 6,4" to have enough material left. I've been looking at different models on E-bay and the Ford bearings looks like they have a big flange. The Ford Bolt Pattern is 5x5", right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/89-90...1%7C240%3A1318

Anyone got any good ideas of which model to get from?
The bearing must be low profile so I can retain a low scrub radius.

[Rhino]

The Ford Bolt Pattern is 5x5", right?

Ford cars are, historically, 5x4.5". I can't speak to any of the newer ford products, although I know this holds true to at least the late 90's.



EDIT: It appears F-150's from '96 onward used 5X135mm. I'm not sure what style of bearing they use.
Something you might be able to use as a reference for research is http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse...._Reference.cfm.
They have bolt patterns for numerous makes and models.

[Ripper]

EDIT: It appears F-150's from '96 onward used 5X135mm. I'm not sure what style of bearing they use.
Something you might be able to use as a reference for research is http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse...._Reference.cfm.
They have bolt patterns for numerous makes and models.

Exact the type of info I was looking for!

F-150 2000-2004:


Enough material to make a new bolt pattern, and tight packaging.

Is this a complete bearing, or do I need the drive shaft to prevent the wheel hub from falling apart? Or is the part on the picture "one piece"?


Otherwise it looks good, it should be enough for a 2300 lbs car on slicks.

[Rhino]

I'm glad that helped. To tell you the truth, I'm not much of a ford guy, so I can't say with 100% certainty whether you need the axle. Maybe someone else can chime in.
If the ford is anything like Chevrolets and Jeeps, you can run the bearing without an axle. The bearing takes the load. The axle is only there to provide power.

[novaderrik]

if you are going to be running a Porsche bolt pattern, then why not just run a Porsche bearing and hub?
or don't they run the same style of bearing as what you are looking for?
would definitely make things easier if a bearing ever needs to be replaced.

[Ripper]

Yes, that would be an idea.

The biggest problem is that Porsche isn't using the cartrigde type of hub/bearing. They have separate hub, two bearings and a upright. I was lazy, and thought that it's alot easier to make a pair of uprights if I just can bolt the hub with bearings to it.

And then it's the price too... I can fab uprights plus buying F-150 wheel hubs for the same price as the Porsche hubs and bearings... :bsjerk:

[CarlC]

It you want to run 4WD you will need the axle (note splines.) but it will work in this configuration. Otherwise, you may want to consider a 2WD version to reduce costs.

[Takid455]

I have been kicking this idea around for a while since ATS didn't seem to have any plans for a second gen spindle. we should collaborate our ideas. A corvette hub would be my choice. I would also do one with a Viper 6 lug hub to match bolt patter of a rear suspension I'm researching. Interchangeable hubs would be the ideal solution. Do you use a drafting program? if so which one? PM me

[Ripper]

CarlC: I'm aware of that, but thanks for the reminder.

I have been kicking this idea around for a while since ATS didn't seem to have any plans for a second gen spindle. we should collaborate our ideas. A corvette hub would be my choice. I would also do one with a Viper 6 lug hub to match bolt patter of a rear suspension I'm researching. Interchangeable hubs would be the ideal solution. Do you use a drafting program? if so which one? PM me

I'm a mechanical engineer and have worked in CATIA, ProE and Solid Works. For the moment, I'm using Solid Works.

I would be happy to share my constructions, but everything else is so far from stock in the suspension (designed my own suspension geometry and will build my own front end, A-arms etc) so none of the parts will be able to implement in a second gen without major redesigning.

Here are some pictures of my construction so far. Remember though, what you see is not final so some things might look strange/weak/wrong etc. The pull-rod suspension is just mocked up so far.