Obsidian SG1

[BonzoHansen]

"I still don't see 1.3 million"

If I read (or read into) the article correctly there was a lot of what we call scope creep/scope change. Fluid plans certainly raises the $$$$.

"I can understand a paddle shifted auto, but on a manual where you still have to use the clutch? "

It appears the car got a lot of stuff just to have it. When the article discussed the issues with the trans I coudln't help but think "WTH did they do that for?"

[Roger M]

The wheels should be real knock-offs instead of those fake bolt-ons, the hood fell from an ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down, and like others have said, a windsor motor on something built to this caliber is pretty weak. They should have put a cammer or something much mor exotic in it. Too much extra bling for my tastes. I doubt it will see $250k. That is my .02

[NOPANTS-68]

$1.3M- and we're using cheapo off the shelf wheels? Ouch. Rather have a Veyron and a Coke.

[Hartz]

It's nice, but....

The first thing I thought when I read the feature was, "Great, now Pro Touring has reached the Dobberton J-2000 level."

[compos mentis]

Here's the dyno figures:

Horsesepower: 847.8HP on California grade 91 octane fuel at 5,800 RPM (dyno verified)
Torque: 770 Lbs. Ft. Torque on California grade 91 octane fuel at 4,400 RPM (dyno verified)

[Steve1968LS2]

Here's the dyno figures:

Horsesepower: 847.8HP on California grade 91 octane fuel at 5,800 RPM (dyno verified)
Torque: 770 Lbs. Ft. Torque on California grade 91 octane fuel at 4,400 RPM (dyno verified)

Is that engine or rear wheel?

[barraza]

It's nice, but....

The first thing I thought when I read the feature was, "Great, now Pro Touring has reached the Dobberton J-2000 level."

Quote of the day.

Two additional things:

How did that guy piss off Hot Rod so much that the tone of the article was so negative?? I have never read anything from them (or any car mag) that was so critical of a feature.

NEVER let a professional racer drive your car unless it is proven and tested bulletproof. Wasn't Guerro the guy that crashed on the warmup lap at indy a dozen or so years ago?

[barraza]

Oops, its "Guerrero" and actually it was 92, he spun off on the pace lap after having qualified first. That was five years after he spent a couple of weeks in a coma after a wreck. Nice guy, but wont be invited to drive anything I own.

1.3 million? Maybe he's about the same percentage over budget as I am on my Camaro or my garage/home renovation project(don't ask). Time is money, custom design and built time is huge money.

[compos mentis]

As far as I can see they only use a chassis dyno at that shop.

I didn't see in the Hot Rod article or on the Obsidian website what kind of dyno was used.

Note the chart says "estimated flywheel".

[craigs73]

thats a sweet ride

[oestek]

$1.3M- and we're using cheapo off the shelf wheels? Ouch. Rather have a Veyron and a Coke.

Another great quote!

[claytonisbob]

www.obsidiansg1.com says that the car is 4100lbs. Holy cow! Makes my Chevelle sound like a lightweight.

[CarlC]

In the Hot Rod story on the optima event they say they fully expected the PT cars to fall flat on their faces.. something like "victims of too many parts and not enough tuning"...

In Hot Rod's defense, there were some cars that did have problems. What they may not explain well, and is totally normal for every car (non-OE) that goes to the track for the first time, are the teething problems. If this same event was based on high-dollar 1/4-mile cars there would less breakdowns and more tuning. For road coarse events, there are more breakdowns simply because the vehicle systems are pushed much harder for much longer.

Though HR may seem biased and harsh, it may work out OK in the end since it will allow the builders the experience of failure. It's quite motivating to have a paradigm shift in your thinking after you find out what you thougt was OK, really isn't.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

and also a riveting success if you put it in their faces..

[trapin]

Hot Rod Magazine needs to die a slow and terrifying death.

In regards to the Obsidian car....lose the hood and intake and I got nothing but mad love for it.

[compos mentis]

In regards to the Obsidian car....lose the hood and intake and I got nothing but mad love for it.

Agreed.

From their spec page...

"The body has been extended 7” over stock"

That's obviously part of the reason for the 4100 lbs.

Certainly didn't hurt the looks.

I like the Shelby 65-66 style qtr windows and the black paint is a winner also.

[Boosted67]

55forward, if you only knew. That car is NOTHING of what is says. It makes nothing close to that. The intercoolers were taken off during the dynos runs because they were heat soaking, and they didn't use 91. They used race gas. It made 654 to the ground, which ain't all that bad. But an injustice to the engine built for that car. And it doesn't do the "1000hp, and 1200 hp with mre tuning." He asked that the numbers be fudged even higher than that, but they wouldn't becasue they new better. Car has horrible belt slip I don't know if they ever fixed.

[thedugan]

Awesome car.
What kind of seats are those?

[compos mentis]

55forward, if you only knew. That car is NOTHING of what is says. It makes nothing close to that. The intercoolers were taken off during the dynos runs because they were heat soaking, and they didn't use 91. They used race gas. It made 654 to the ground, which ain't all that bad. But an injustice to the engine built for that car. And it doesn't do the "1000hp, and 1200 hp with mre tuning." He asked that the numbers be fudged even higher than that, but they wouldn't becasue they new better. Car has horrible belt slip I don't know if they ever fixed.

Thanks for the info.

I had a a bad vibe about that dyno stuff. Its a chassis dyno yet no rwhp #'s are posted and than like I posted about it says "estimated flywheel".

[Boosted67]

Thanks for the info.

I had a a bad vibe about that dyno stuff. Its a chassis dyno yet no rwhp #'s are posted and than like I posted about it says "estimated flywheel".

Oh I know you knew. But he always claims how great it is, and honestly some parts are nice. But it's not quite what he says in many areas. "It's the fastest production mustang ever built." You can't make that claim when it's never been tested. They said it made 14psi and 900hp or some crap like that at it's SEMA debut. But it wasn't running then, and didn't run until 2 years later.