Obsidian SG1

[claytonisbob]

What are some of your thoughts about the Obsidian SG1 mustang in the latest HotRod. I haven't seen anything about it posted before, and dont find anything on this particuar car when searching Obsidian.

Links:

http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/20...rd-Mustang.htm

http://www.obsidiansg1.com/



The HR article says it cost 1.3 million to build.

To me the bodywork is a little much. While I can appreciate the amount of work on the hood, bumper and rear, the intercooler layout is definitly not ideal (on top of the engine) and the hood buldge itself is very... large. The interior is nice (which I like, but warrenting at 1.3mil price IDK?). Torque arm rear suspension. It has a 850hp twin supercharged 392ci Windsor engine. Electronically shifted TKO.

I dont know, while I do like the car, I just don't understand the price being there are several cars here [mostly camaros though ;)] that seem to be on par with it, and are probably better performers (2x turboed LSx engines pushing at least 800hp, 3 to 4 link or independant rear suspensions) and < $250k budgets.



Maybe they changed their minds a lot, and the bodywork is a lot nicer/more elaborate than I thought.

[LowBuckX]

Wow could be nice butt like you said the hood is a tad;;;; nix that The hood is way gaudy.

[icebird84]

[Flash68]

That might be the sickest car of all friggin time!

[compos mentis]

Maybe they changed their minds a lot, and the bodywork is a lot nicer/more elaborate than I thought.

The article said there were a lot of mid build changes.

Ironic that when Hot Rod had ex-Indy car driver Roberto Guerrero try and test it at the track, all kinds of problems cropped up.

[ProdigyCustoms]

I really like it. I could look over (no pun) the too big hood. I really like the brake cooler ducts in the top of the fenders and will borrowthat idea some day on something.

1.3 mil? I wish i could have got a piece of that action!

[1971CHEVELLE]

That might be the sickest car of all friggin time!

it is okay to extreme for my

[compos mentis]

Rough intro at the track. First the car wouldn't shift out of reverse... 5 hour fix later. The paddle shift's electronics controller is mounted right above the exhaust. Hot Rod's take is that the intense heat could have caused the electrical problems the tranny had. Add that to Guerrero missing a shift being unfamiliar with the "counterintuitive nature of the paddle shifter". Then they couldn't get it out of first gear after that happened, but he made a slow full lap in 1st gear anyways.

"Brought it back onto pit lane, shut it off, which was followed by a gush of hot, green fluid from under the car."

Hot Rod said if there is another track day, they'll do a follow up.

[BMF Machine]

I really like it. I could look over (no pun) the too big hood. I really like the brake cooler ducts in the top of the fenders and will borrowthat idea some day on something.

1.3 mil? I wish i could have got a piece of that action!

1.3 must be where the name came from? I love the car, but c'mon get serious with the price? Sick car for sure, but someone is not telling the truth about the sticker.IMO

[Steve Chryssos]

Mods are on par with The 'cuda--plus do-overs. Look closer and you will see a altered wheelbase and every panel tweaked--including the roof. Maybe even the windshield angle.

As for Hot Rod, they are on a mission to seek out over-the-top trailer queens. The goal is to continue they're weird anti pro-touring obsession. Let's see how they cover the optima Challenge. Positive or negative? Will they show the cars that proved they can hunt or the cars that made poopie pants. Hopefully they will prove me wrong.

[compos mentis]

If I was going for an exotic look I'd toss the 392 Windsor. Instead wring every bit of power out of an aluminum 427 Cammer and add in Pantera EFI or some other top notch EMS to the mix. They'd lose the cooling problems also. Or most of 'em lol.

[wicked68]

its very pretty but like somone said - what are you going to do with it - especially at 1.3 mil

would you be willing to race it?

will it even run well on different tracks?

I think its counter intuitive to the pro-touring scene - its just been taken to the extreme - but it has its place - I am sure the person it was built for wanted a 1 of a kind over the top """"show car"""" which is what they got and I am sure it will get a lot of looks sitting behind a velvet rope in a building somewhere.

On a bright note - if it drives some innovation that gets adopted at a much a lower price out in the driver market - that would be good, but I am not sure it will since most of the stuff I see is not really practical.

I noticed the power numbers all say estimated - which means they have not dyno'd it and are just making some guesses. lol
it does not even have a roll cage which means you cant even get on a real track with it to race.

when they go out on a power tour or complete some real racing with it and come back to town to say its a reliable car then I will give them the golf clap.

[project hotrod]

I've seen worse... But I don't think it's too bad.

It is good to see it finished though.

I sold them the Rotrex blowers for that car when I worked at W2W

[mach1stang]

There is no way that there is 1.3 mil in it. The only way that car could have that much in it is if they built it two or three times.

[ProdigyCustoms]

I have not read it yet, but I would rather NOT have a feature if it reads like that.

[compos mentis]

I have not read it yet, but I would rather NOT have a feature if it reads like that.

Yes, it does read like that.

To quote Hot Rod on how the builder reacted:

"Matt was visibly devastated and uncertain why there were so many problems with the car that day...."

[CraigMorrison]

I can understand a paddle shifted auto, but on a manual where you still have to use the clutch? Where's the performance gain on that? I can really see where an ex F1 driver would get messed up trying to figure it out.

[CarlC]

I'm with Steve on this one. Lots and lots of things that are subtle, but lots of things that are not. For me, a subtle sledge hammer is preferable to a screaming one.


Devastated that the car did not work? He's never been to a track day before.

[BossaNova]

I think that grill is the shiz.......but I'd stop right there. Don't wear it out!

[Steve1968LS2]

Mods are on par with The 'cuda--plus do-overs. Look closer and you will see a altered wheelbase and every panel tweaked--including the roof. Maybe even the windshield angle.

As for Hot Rod, they are on a mission to seek out over-the-top trailer queens. The goal is to continue they're weird anti pro-touring obsession. Let's see how they cover the optima Challenge. Positive or negative? Will they show the cars that proved they can hunt or the cars that made poopie pants. Hopefully they will prove me wrong.

In the Hot Rod story on the optima event they say they fully expected the PT cars to fall flat on thier faces.. something like "victims of too many parts and not enough tuning"... They certainly weren't pleased I won.

Remember the feature that was promised the winner of the event? Well, not so much in my case. lol

I still don't see 1.3 million.. It doesn't seem that much nicer than the Ring Bros version and that car was less than a third of the cost. Then again build costs can ramp up fast, especially with lots of do-overs.

It's not a new build.. it was at SEMA two years ago..