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    1. #1
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      Opinions: Best 69' F-Body Subframe/Rear

      I would like to get some opinions about what the best suspension set-up is for the 69' F-body. The car will mainly be a road car but will be used on occasion for auto-x and track driving. It will probably have a LS3, LS7 or, LSA with 500-650 HP, backed by a T-56. I am considering DSE/AME/Speedtech or possibly a full frame from Roadster Shop or Street Rod Garage. Price is not a factor in what my decision will be, but I just want to pick the best product for how I will be driving my car and I don't want to go overboard with a set-up that will not be fully utilized. Thanks for your opinions.
      Cole Matthews
      1969 Pontiac Firebird -
      https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/120405-1969-Firebird-Build
      2013 GT-R
      2011 CTS-V
      1963 F-100

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      Opinions: Best 69' F-Body Subframe/Rear

      We also offer a full frame for these, which require less fabrication than others. Feel free to PM me or email [email protected]

      Most of our customers want a nice street friendly ride with great handling- however we beat the snot out of our cars on the track to prove our products work.

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    3. #3
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      I think the new AME IRS is going to be the new benchmark by the sounds of it.
      1969 Camaro - LSA 6L90E AME sub/IRS
      1957 Buick Estate Wagon
      1959 El Camino - Ironworks frame
      1956 Cameo - full C5 suspension/drivetrain
      1959 Apache Fleetside

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      Cole, Take a look at our Torque Arm Kit with a Watt's Link & CoilOvers

    5. #5
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      Quote Originally Posted by PD-1969 View Post
      I would like to get some opinions about what the best suspension set-up is for the 69' F-body. The car will mainly be a road car but will be used on occasion for auto-x and track driving. It will probably have a LS3, LS7 or, LSA with 500-650 HP, backed by a T-56. I am considering DSE/AME/Speedtech or possibly a full frame from Roadster Shop or Street Rod Garage. Price is not a factor in what my decision will be, but I just want to pick the best product for how I will be driving my car and I don't want to go overboard with a set-up that will not be fully utilized. Thanks for your opinions.
      I highly recommend Art Morrison subframes.

      I’ve got a Lateral Dynamics rear suspension for sale in the parts forum. Same suspension as Bad penny and the one lap Camaro.
      69 SS/350 Camaro
      AME Front & Rear LT Build
      69 SS/396 Camaro
      LT4 Build
      71 K5

    6. #6
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      Bang for the buck I think you can figure out where I stand. if you need more info feel free to call Roger or Jay and they can give you all the details. 435-628-4300
      Blake Foster
      www.speedtechperformance.com
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      it's always sunny here.

    7. #7
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      Quote Originally Posted by dhutton View Post
      I think the new AME IRS is going to be the new benchmark by the sounds of it.
      I still remember when Mary Pozzi said that after driving our '69 with the proto IRS at Willow Springs. It felt nice to have 3 years of hard work validated by that.

      Every subframe has their advantages. Personally I like using OEM lightweight aluminum C7 arms with OEM C6 knuckles as it opens up lots opens up upgrades down the road and takes advantage of the high dollar engineering GM can apply to their components. High load capacity hubs, monoball bushings, etc can all be used with our subframe when the need arises. For the rear, our subframe fits the factory floor and significantly increases stiffness. When you combine the front and rear subframes with connectors, you have a extremely rigid and lightweight structure.
      Matt Jones
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      Art Morrison Enterprises

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      I hear there might be some trick parts coming from a company in California. Also heard something about them getting released next week...
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    9. #9
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      Opinions: Best 69' F-Body Subframe/Rear

      Muscle car metal offers a full frame setup with c6 vette suspension
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      1969 frost green camaro
      LS3
      Speedtech pro touring front subframe
      ridetech rear 4-link
      moser 12 bolt eaton tru trac 3.73

    10. #10
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      Quote Originally Posted by Carl @ Chassisworks View Post
      I hear there might be some trick parts coming from a company in California. Also heard something about them getting released next week...
      Can we get a peak? Details please !
      Ahmad B.

    11. #11
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      Quote Originally Posted by Carl @ Chassisworks View Post
      I hear there might be some trick parts coming from a company in California. Also heard something about them getting released next week...
      OK, so where are they? :>)
      1969 Camaro - LSA 6L90E AME sub/IRS
      1957 Buick Estate Wagon
      1959 El Camino - Ironworks frame
      1956 Cameo - full C5 suspension/drivetrain
      1959 Apache Fleetside

    12. #12
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      Don`t forget to consider the offerings from Chassisworks too. They run from just good competent basic sub frame/4 link systems to their all out gStreet SEMA car package with full frame rails , new floors/inner rockers etc. to allow for proper travel and ground clearance with rocker heights as low as 4". A nicely optioned gStreet subframe and gLink rear suspension with double adjustable coil overs and gConnector structure package to connect them together is less than $9K. http://scandc.com/new/node/806
      If you want to get more exotic you can opt for quad adjustable remote reservoir coil overs, full frame rails, Fab9 cambered full floater rear axle and/or the just being released gStreet billet uprights. This new spindle uses larger than ZR1 Corvette hub/bearing packs, uber beefy construction and huge, purpose built delrin race pivot ball assemblies in lieu of cheap OE style ball joints. This is in stark contrast to the disposable OE C5/C6 spindles with their tiny, non replaceable upper ball joints. Bumpsteer is adjustable and the spindle is part of a wide track package that widens the track of the car 1.5" per side for improved scrub radius, better tire clearance and easier fitment with modern wheels. Pretty slick.
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      PS. dHutton, here it is.

    13. #13
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      Quote Originally Posted by Marcus SC&C View Post
      Don`t forget to consider the offerings from Chassisworks too. They run from just good competent basic sub frame/4 link systems to their all out gStreet SEMA car package with full frame rails , new floors/inner rockers etc. to allow for proper travel and ground clearance with rocker heights as low as 4". A nicely optioned gStreet subframe and gLink rear suspension with double adjustable coil overs and gConnector structure package to connect them together is less than $9K. http://scandc.com/new/node/806
      If you want to get more exotic you can opt for quad adjustable remote reservoir coil overs, full frame rails, Fab9 cambered full floater rear axle and/or the just being released gStreet billet uprights. This new spindle uses larger than ZR1 Corvette hub/bearing packs, uber beefy construction and huge, purpose built delrin race pivot ball assemblies in lieu of cheap OE style ball joints. This is in stark contrast to the disposable OE C5/C6 spindles with their tiny, non replaceable upper ball joints. Bumpsteer is adjustable and the spindle is part of a wide track package that widens the track of the car 1.5" per side for improved scrub radius, better tire clearance and easier fitment with modern wheels. Pretty slick.
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      PS. dHutton, here it is.
      marcus,

      After looking at your link, I have a few questions:



      i thought chassisworks had had a crossmember for a 4L80e trans that worked for the 1st gen camaro?

      is the price on your website for the value, optioned or pro-touring version of the front sub frame?

    14. #14
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      Quote Originally Posted by DJW32 View Post
      marcus,

      After looking at your link, I have a few questions:

      i thought chassisworks had had a crossmember for a 4L80e trans that worked for the 1st gen camaro?
      We do make a 4L80 crossmember but it's relatively new. It's an option with any Camaro clip package and Mark can get you what you need. You can see all the different trans crossmember options here: http://www.cachassisworks.com/c-157-...irect-fit.aspx
      Carl Ogren - Sales and Tech

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