Turn corners and run 8's??

[Typhoon1015]

I like the idea and have talked with LS1NOVA about this before. A simple drag protion with allowable shock, tune, and tire changes. A autocross portion with 200 treadwear rules, and a roadcourse portion. A cruise portion and design portion for points.

LS Fest is the closest, but it would need a roadcourse as well as allow tire changes.

Wouldn't you all love to see a car click off a 8 or 9 second at the strip, swap on the large tires/wheels, adjust shocks, and then throw it around a autocross and road course. I could see it being a weekend thing, friday for autocross, saturday road course, sunday for drags. Some type of dinner cruise one of the nights. A picture of the car at the restraunt and recipt of the bill would get you cruise points.

[howehot]

Iowa Speedway could allow all 3. They in the past used pit road for an 1/8 mile drag.

[1966longroof]

Cool ideas. Only 1400 miles to Iowa......I'd drive the Wagon. Sounds fun if it can happen. Best of Luck !!!

[Nicks67GTO]

Iowa Speedway could allow all 3. They in the past used pit road for an 1/8 mile drag.

What if it was structured with 2 tracks

-CF raceway for the 1/4 mile from 6-11AM. Then drive 100 miles to Newton/Iowa speedway. You cant leave CF until 10AM and you have to be in Newton by 1pm to qualify.

-Once @ the Iowa Speedway in Newton you have until 6pm to get the Auto X and Roadcourse done. That would be a heck of a lot easier to coordinate.

My other thought is that if you have to change tires from the 1/4 mile to the street/auto x, you would be in the power adder class. Maybe call the power adder class unlimited?

Again im just thinking about loud.....

[LS1NOVA]

Keep brainstorming guys, I think this could really turn into an awesome event. Having everything in one day is pretty crazy imo. Im more for Justins idea of a weekend event. Drag racing portion needs to be 1/4 mile.

[Steve Chryssos]

How quick an ET have you run so far?

[sccacuda]

I went to the inaugural Year One Experience at Road Atlanta and it was setup loosely like that. The let you run in groups of 5 behind a pace car on the big track, but kept speeds below a hundred. They had an autocross setup in the infield as well as a brake stop challenge. Everybody trucked over to the dragstrip on Sunday and made runs. It wasn't setup as a competition, but could easily be made into one. Some of marketing people on here should talk with Year One or Goodmark up in Atlanta and see about putting something together.

That being said, a venue that has a strip and roadcourse in one would be ideal. Road Atlanta is not a forgiving track. The walls are pretty close, and any "offs" are usually rewarded with bent sheet metal. VIR or something that is all in one and PLENTY of runoff.

[LS1NOVA]

How quick an ET have you run so far?

Its been 9.53 at 150 using around 75% of available power due to traction issues. New boost controller and Mickey 275 Pro's should fix that.

[71RS/SS396]

If you're going to allow cars to run drag specific tires for the drag strip then to be fair about it the cars optimized for auto-x/road course should be allowed to run "R" compound tires for that part of the competition otherwise you'll slant the results towards cars more suited for drag racing.

[LS1NOVA]

If you're going to allow cars to run drag specific tires for the drag strip then to be fair about it the cars optimized for auto-x/road course should be allowed to run "R" compound tires for that part of the competition otherwise you'll slant the results towards cars more suited for drag racing.

I agree, R compound should be allowed but needs to be street legal. No slicks in any category.

[ho428]

Memphis International Raceway could do it. Central location, 1/4 mile drag, 1.8 mile road course and Autocross all in one place.
Steet legal tires, drag radials, R compounds. Somehow have to set the rules where you can't "swap" or remove suspension componets, only tune them.

[dontlifttoshift]

I agree, R compound should be allowed but needs to be street legal. No slicks in any category.

Hoosier A6s are DOT stamped.....

[Steve Chryssos]

Its been 9.53 at 150 using around 75% of available power due to traction issues. New boost controller and Mickey 275 Pro's should fix that.

That's freakin' awesome. I'm sure you are one of only a hand full of pro-touring cars that has been in the nines. What are you running for suspension?



The nice thing about drag racing is that they give you that little slip of paper at the end of each run. It would be nice to have one or more all inclusive events, but to me, it's enough just to show up at a track day and/or autocross with your time slip and have at it. I think there's a lot to be learned and showcased about available traction from various brands of pro-touring suspension. That discussion is just as relevant at 9.53 or even 10.53.

[Steve Chryssos]

If you're going to allow cars to run drag specific tires for the drag strip then to be fair about it the cars optimized for auto-x/road course should be allowed to run "R" compound tires for that part of the competition otherwise you'll slant the results towards cars more suited for drag racing.

I fully agree, but the tire subject is always hornet's nest waiting to be poked. In fact, there will be yahoos who think this concept won't be legit unless the 8 or even 9 second run comes on regular street tires. Like that's safe or realistic.

[LS1NOVA]

That's freakin' awesome. I'm sure you are one of only a hand full of pro-touring cars that has been in the nines. What are you running for suspension?

The nice thing about drag racing is that they give you that little slip of paper at the end of each run. It would be nice to have one or more all inclusive events, but to me, it's enough just to show up at a track day and/or autocross with your time slip and have at it. I think there's a lot to be learned and showcased about available traction from various brands of pro-touring suspension. That discussion is just as relevant at 9.53 or even 10.53.

In the interest of full disclosure, I did swap the front coilover springs from 450lb to 250lb to get some travel in the front end and weight transfer but now that its decently leaving the line Ill be trying 350s or maybe even back to the 450s so that its just shock settings. Unhook swaybar, dial in shocks, wheel/tire change, ready to go!

[Steve Chryssos]

That's important. ..And interesting. We use ridetech Airbags. Not only do we get to soften the front spring rate without pulling the sway bar, but we can also jack up the rear to fit taller drag radials and preload the right rear. We dump the rebound from the front shocks as well. To a small degree, the talk about 8 second ET's is a small distraction. Running 9's AND clicking off good lap times AND being a true street car is a big accomplishment Case in point: A million bucks, 0-60 in under 3 seconds, 10 second ET's.


What does the Schwartz Performance TA run in the 1/4?

[Ron Sutton]

Running 9's AND clicking off good lap times AND being a true street car is a big accomplishment Case in point: A million bucks, 0-60 in under 3 seconds, 10 second ET's.

Very good point.

[LS1NOVA]

Schwartz TA ran 11.6ish iirc at the PHR shootout. Its not optimized for drag and was on 200 treadwear tires so lots of improvement could be made. Im sure its a heavy car so Id imagine low 10's/ high 9's all out. Hell of a car though.

FWIW, mine has run 10.22 at 147 in full autox trim, Nitto NT05s, swaybar hooked up, etc. Couldnt hook anymore power.

[GrabberGT]

I kind of like the concept of one car to do it all. Whats wrong with 2-3 sets of tires? Slicks, R-comp and Street. its 3 different races all on the same day with transit between them. Give points out for places in each competition. The most points at the end of the days wins. (This keeps each discipline evenly weighted) If you want or need to change out suspension components, so-be-it. As long as you make it to the start line at your given time its fine by me. Its about who has the fastest do-it-all car right? Not do it-all setup. If thats the case, you might as well go back to street tires only.

[srh3trinity]

There is such a big difference between cars that run 8's, 9's and 10's too. Cost goes up and on streetability declines. Still, it would be a great contest to see who has the most versatile street car.