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    View Poll Results: Old or New??

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    • Full build Nova

      27 60.00%
    • Vette

      15 33.33%
    • Save my $$$ and do both

      3 6.67%
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    1. #1
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      Old or New?

      Hello everyone! I am looking for your opinion on this as I cannot make a decision. I have a 70 Nova, Thinking about doing a full build on it. I am also wanting a Z06/ZR1 very, very badly. The Nova will cost as much or more than either of the Vettes(new or used). I owned a Z06 a couple of years ago and loved it! I just cannot get the old cars out of my blood!

      There are alot of good points and bad for each car. With my work schedule, I'm afraid I will not get much use out of the Nova but could use the Vette more often.It would take a while to save enough money to do the Nova and I would have to have a shop build it because I do not have the tools or ability to build it. I really wish I could do it myself but I know I do not have the abulity and want it to be a great car when done(if I do it)



      So, If you were in my position, what would you do? Please vote and give your reasoning for the choice.

      THANK YOU!!

      Michael


    2. #2
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      I can definitely understand your dilemma. However, with the technology that is being put into these pro touring cars today is pretty impressive. If you were to put an LS engine and complete pro touring suspension on the Nova....it would have the reliability and handling of a new car. A lot of people have new Corvettes, but how many people in your area have a pro touring Nova? The new Corvettes are very nice, but a rebuilt muscle car has a look that is second to none (in my opinion).

    3. #3
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      vette now build the nova over time, get what you are going to get the most use out of.
      Brandon Slater

      1979 Z28
      1972 Nova
      2015 2500 silverado crew cab duramax

    4. #4
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      love old but go new drive it everyday

    5. #5
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      looking to sell my chevelle to buy a zo6

    6. #6
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      I agree that there are a lot of vette's out there but how often do you see a pro-touring Nova?! With that being said if you can't do it yourself it will definately be costly, I think it comes down to how much you wanna spend and how soon you want to start driving it...

    7. #7
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      not my quote but "truly great cars are built not bought....."
      Nascar 69 Chevelle project, 1999 Hutch Pagan Nascar chassis, 69 Chevelle body,700hp, Penske's, slicks, roadrace track day https://www.pro-touring.com/showthre...le-Cup-project
      89 Iroc 406 Fitech 5 spd
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    8. #8
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      Which of those excites you? Its a personal preference, and a choice you alone have to make. Whatever you choose make sure your absolutely committed to it.
      -James

      1974 Z28 SCCA C Prepared
      1990 Firebird NASA CMC
      2005 Mustang GT SCCA F-Street (new for 2015)
      1989 Civic Si SCCA STC

    9. #9
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      Get a Vette if you want, and make the Nova a driver and have fun with it; work on it over time...as others have said.

    10. #10
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      build the nova, with corvette suspension and you have both in one parking spot!! oh and one more thing, drive the piss out of it

    11. #11
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      I'd go vette, ZR1 is bad to the bone. Absolutely loved my vette, building the Nova over time has its rewards as well, especially as new parts and upgrades are coming out. Gives you time to really get the Nova right, while burning down the road in the vette.
      GRIFF
      '67 CAMARO

    12. #12
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      If you're in the position to buy the Vette, I say do it so you can have something to enjoy now! The Nova should be your source of relaxation and creativity, something you can craft to your personal tastes and not be in a rush to get it done. In the end, you'll have two very cool cars.
      Herb

      1966 El Camino LS408/T56Magnum
      1966 Chevelle 509/T56Magnum
      1963 C10 454/4L80

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    13. #13
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      Almost anyone can buy a vette, but not everyone can build a cool looking, great handling pro-touring vehicle.

    14. #14
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      Here's the hard question you have to answer:

      How..long...do...you...want...to...wait...to drive it.

      If you like both and can afford to do either, that's all that matters...

      Ray Kaufman - Wyotech Chassis Fab and High Performance Instructor. Words of Wisdom from an old master... at Asylum Custom Interiors website

    15. #15
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      I just love my Old school.

      I am finishing all the underneath Pro Touring stuff and running the Factory drive line for now.

      But if I go New tech drive line, I will be pushing Z06 prices by then...

      But to compete with them in all categories, I would have too.

      Tough Choice, but for you, I would Go Z06...

      Then down the road, you can get a PT project, or one already done...

      IMHO...
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    16. #16
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      get the vett and do a mild build on the nova you’ll love it. don’t get rid of the nova you’ll regret it
      ''Courage is being scared to death
      - But saddling up anyway''.......John Wayne...

      Anthony

    17. #17
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      Here's a third choice: sell the 70 Nova, and buy a finished PT car. If you have Z06 money, you'll be able to get a sweet car, then tweak over time to make it your own.
      John Parsons

      UnRivaled Rides -- Modern upgrades for your ride.

      UnRivaled Rides recent project -- LS9-powered 69 Camaro

    18. #18
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      I would build the Nova instead. Some of these new cars are truly great; Mustang GT500, ZO6, New ZL1 Camaro...but they will never have the coolness factor of a Pro-Touring '70 Nova. Why? Because they're essentially everywhere you look; they're all over the place. Hell even a C6 ZO6 is pretty common these days (sorry John).

      But a '70 Pro-Touring Nova? I mean c'mon...how often do you see that in your neck of the woods?

      I can tell you this, in Michigan...there aren't any that I know of and if there were there would be accidents happening all over the road from people doing double-takes to look at it.

      Nova baby. Nova.
      1968 Pro-Touring Camaro LS1

      Project: Next Year
      - Start date; June '01
      - Completion; Sometime next year or the year after.....

    19. #19
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      Quote Originally Posted by TonyR
      Hell even a C6 ZO6 is pretty common these days (sorry John).
      No apology needed! I have two neighbors with Z06s. One blue, one red. They both have extensive diaper collections with which to rub their babies.

      They shake their heads when I roll by with mine on a trailer, covered in rubber and brake dust.
      John Parsons

      UnRivaled Rides -- Modern upgrades for your ride.

      UnRivaled Rides recent project -- LS9-powered 69 Camaro

    20. #20
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      Similar to what others are saying, it really depends on how you plan to enjoy it.

      Pros
      Nova: Attend classic car shows, attend performance car gatherings like Cars and Coffee, have something unlike anyone else, possibility of increasing in value as it ages like fine wine, back seat, auto crosses, track time, fairly inexpensive classic car insurance.

      Corvette: Attend performance car gatherings and Vette clubs, drive it every day, modern conveniences, warranty, ease of repair if it gets damaged, auto crosses, track time, buy and drive immediately, easy to customize, not having to deal with the restoration headaches.

      Cons
      Nova: Headaches and pain associated with restoration process, difficult to repair the right way if it gets damaged, minimal warranty if any depending on builder, due to uniqueness probably not a daily driver, fear of getting damaged, long wait to drive it before it's completed.

      Corvette: Just another Corvette, no classic car shows, insurance costs, 2 seats, depreciating asset.

      These are just a few pros and cons; some may matter to you more than others.

      The Nova may not cost as much as a brand new Z06 or especially a ZR1. I'm in the middle of a full frame off and it will cost me about $60k when done, but I'm not going LS. It's a mild pro-touring/resto mod with nice PT suspension, beautiful body and paint, but with a traditional small block Chevy for various reasons including cost (mods to make one fit). It all depends on the shop. My shop only charges $50 per hour and many are much higher than that. This guy has done some award winning magazine cars.

      I too wish I could have the best of both worlds. An awesome classic car and a modern performance/luxury car, but I don't have the income for both. There are other options. Sell the Nova and buy one that's already completed. It will save you tons of $$. In hindsight, I wish I would have done just that, but I've had the Chevelle for over 25 years, so there is some emotional ties to this car for me. I could have sold it for about $7k and purchased a completed, decent car for around $30k which would have left $$ towards a modern car as well.

      When I first started, I was doing the work myself, but due to space restrictions (modest 2 car garage), time, and etc, I shipped it off to a shop. My original budget was about $30k total for a nice driver. However, after finding all of the issues with this AZ car (lol), the budget spiraled out of control due to having to replace just about all of the steel (floors, quarters, wheel houses, trunk, rear window frame, etc, etc, etc... Once you start a restoration, you never know what's going to turn up and you're pretty much stuck unless you want to take the car back in boxes. PITA and lots of stress. It will never be worth what I've put into it; at least not for the foreseeable future. It will be nice to have something unique that I can show off at local classic car shows, enjoy driving, but if I were to do it all over again, I'd be more than happy to walk into a dealership and leave with a nice, fun, fast, car. Heck, I would be happy with a $40k Boss 302 Mustang (rare, fun, fairly unique) or a ZL1 Camaro. Those are both much cheaper than a ZO6 or ZR1.

      ZR1 = over $100k
      Nova restoration: $50k to $80k depending on how crazy you get.

      Hope that helps...
      Project High School Sweetheart
      65 Chevelle 300 2dr Sedan = "CURSD65"

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