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    1. #1
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      Project Y Gen 3rd Gen

      Trying to finish dash and interior for debut at the Car Craft Nationals in St Paul MN. July 15-17, 2005
      Updates here:
      www.schwartzperformance.com

      Jeff Schwartz 815-770-0751
      SchwartzPerformance
      Where classic style meets modern performance.
      455 Commanche Circle
      Harvard IL 60033
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    2. #2
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      Looking good Jeff. Think you'll make the deadline? It's looking real good so far.
      Allen Ortega
      Meanstreets Performance Fabrication

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    3. #3
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      i hope it does not fly away
      Chris V
      SOLD


    4. #4
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      yeah, that wing is a little far out there, same with the red wheels, other than that, cool car! i like the cars you guys are putting out!!

    5. #5
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      A semi-riced thirdgen. What a shame. Those taillights could have been updated/graded with a later model version atleast. Good luck with it. Just not my flavor.
      '70 Formula 400 PT Project
      '88 GTA Notchback

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      Perspective matters here

      Remember that this car is being built for a young man, who appreciates more of the modern in things than some of us do. I would not do the same wing, but it may be fine for the performance goals as well as the intended driver's desires. I would bet that both of my sons would like this car more than other versions of it, so that being said I think it is another fine example of PT diversity as well as craftsmanship from the Schwartz shop.
      Jeff
      1971 RS Camaro: PAINKILLER

    7. #7
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      That looks cool, alright im putting a wing on mine!
      MrQuick ΜΟΛ'ΩΝ ΛΑΒ'Ε


    8. #8
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      Yeah, we have to remeber it is a youngster, so he is probably influenced by peers a bit. Lets just be happy he is building a muscle car. I had to build a Eclipse with the oldest and a Integra for the middle one, YUCK!

      Jeff, I know you are lovin this father son project, hold on as long as you can.

    9. #9
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      i think its very fitting for the theme. the use of C5 rims keeps cost down while still having a large rim. good choice. good luck on making it to the car craft show. did you make your power goals? how much nitrous is running through the engine?
      Trey

      "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese."
      ~ Jon Hammond

      1979 WS6 Trans Am stock LT1/T56 drive train out of my Formula. BMW M-parallel rims. C5/C6 brakes

      build thread https://www.pro-touring.com/showthre...ghlight=begins

    10. #10
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      Quote Originally Posted by Raptor Pilot
      A semi-riced thirdgen. What a shame. Those taillights could have been updated/graded with a later model version atleast. Good luck with it. Just not my flavor.
      Maybe its not your flavor, because it wasn't built by you?

      Andrew
      1970 GTO Version 3.0
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    11. #11
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      Quote Originally Posted by andrewb70
      Maybe its not your flavor, because it wasn't built by you?
      A bit of an oxymoron there.

      Sorry I didn't pat him on the back right away. A little critique isn't allowed? I said "good luck" in the end.

      "Good luck...Isn't my flavor" = 'To each his own/As long as you're happy'



      Sheesh
      '70 Formula 400 PT Project
      '88 GTA Notchback

    12. #12
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      Always good to see projects that are at least in part built by the would be owner. I wish I had the opprtunity to work on a car with my father when I was younger. He was much too busy with his aircraft business at the time however.

      Good luck with the project.
      Jason Mounce
      1969 Firebird | 2008 Corvette Z06 | 2008 Mustang GT/CS

    13. #13
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      Raptor Pilot,
      The only reason you were attacked is because you might not have read the top of the page that has the car on it. It is easy to look at just pics and not see why a car was built. If you had read this from that page you might have thought twice about your original post. The same goes for what Yody posted too.

      Purpose:
      To showcase the current young generation's tuner styling ideas in a traditional rear wheel drive ponycar platform.

      Combining "Tuner" and "Pro Touring, G Machine" build methodology with an emphasis on overall performance


      Keep in mind this is a father son project. I cant even imagine how cool that would be to have a car like this at his age!!! ANd his dad is there to help with the build. Im very jealous. I bet Dale is soo excited.
      Last edited by CAMAROBOY69; 07-05-2005 at 12:53 PM. Reason: meant YODY not Jody
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    14. #14
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      I think the car is badass. I bet alot of people will think its all show and no go. Thats a badass car!!!!
      -David

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      It will be hillarious when someone calls Dale's car "rice" and he shows them the taillights quickly. That wing kind of makes the car a sleeper, since 99.9% of the other imports out there with wings are dog slow.

      Tony
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    16. #16
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      i'm 18, and for the life of me i cannot understand any of this "tuner" style...but, i will say this: there is absolutely nothing cooler than building up a car with your dad, so frankly it doesn't matter one bit what the finished project looks like or what i think of it.

      truthfully, i dont like the car, but i do like the drivetrain and the memories and effort behind it. well actually, i do like the car. the only things that irk me are the wheels and wing, and heck at least his car might actually benefit from a little downforce, unlike all the front wheel drive ricers out there...

      bravo, good sir.

    17. #17
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      I did read the objective before I posted. My opinion remains unchanged, and I'm allowed to have that. I didn't feel "attacked". I've seen worse.

      The part I didn't catch, but 100% appreciate is the fact that it is a father/son project. That is an irreplaceable, priceless set of memories right there building a car together. I'm getting my father in on my '70 build-up right now. I'm 30, he's 63. Good times.

      Like I said before- Good luck, and enjoy it.
      '70 Formula 400 PT Project
      '88 GTA Notchback

    18. #18
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      Glad you didn't feel attacked. It was just a little fun .

      We are all entitled to our opinions. I still hear it from the Pontiac purists about my engine.

      Andrew
      1970 GTO Version 3.0
      1967 Cougar build
      GM High-Tech Performance feature
      My YouTube Channel Please Subscribe!
      Instagram @dr__efi
      I deliver what EFI promises.
      Remote Holley EFI tuning.
      Please get in touch if I can be of service.

      "You were the gun, your voice was the trigger, your bravery was the barrel, your eyes were the bullets." ~ Her

    19. #19
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      Andrew.....

      Your just in bed with Chevrolet you Poncho Geisha!



      I love my 9", Vette susp, and 4l80E!!


      Jeff and Dale:
      Excellent work and a new, alternative, and fresh idea!

      I'm sure Dale likes everything he's done to his car and thats what matters. Good job, congradulations, and enjoy enjoy enjoy!
      Last edited by Jagarang; 07-06-2005 at 04:29 AM.
      Kevin.
      69 Firebird "Eternity"

    20. #20
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      You should really change to a two tone black/red interior with that paint scheme. Hawk's will set you up. http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/

      Not my style with the wing, but otherwise it's a pretty hot looking 3rd gen with the go to match/exceed the show!
      2008 MazdaSpeed 3 GT daily driver
      301 WHP, many mods
      255/35/18 tires and 18x9 wheels to come

      No PT project yet :-(

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