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    1. #1
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      Hardcore Suspension Thread List Here

      OK Guys, post your links to the best Hardcore Suspension tech you can find. PLEASE! no basic stuff.

      PLEASE NOTE IF IT IS A LINK TO A POST IN THIS FORUM OR SOMEWHERE ELSE
      PROVIDE A SHORT DISCTIPTION OF WHAT TOPIC IT COVERS.
      TRY TO KEEP FORUM LINKS AND WEB LINKS SEPARATE.



      LINKS TO THE OLD EZBOARD VERSION OF THIS FORUM ARE NO LONGER GOOD, SEARCH THE "FORUM ARCHIVES" SECTION FOR THE OLD EZBOARD POSTS: https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=57)

      ALSO TRY OUR NEW ADVANCED TECH SECTION: https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=80
      Last edited by David Pozzi; 06-15-2006 at 09:53 PM.
      67 Camaro RS that will be faster than anything Mary owns.


    2. #2
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      Just a few from past posts here. David, they are just in the order in which I found them, not significance or with any type of learning flow. Feel free to move them around, delete, whatever to make it easier to learn.

      Motion Ratio.
      The John Parsons project.
      One of many Guldstrand mod discussions.
      Roll Center discussion.
      Alignment/track width/other good stuff.
      3 link rear suspension, with some good links in post #12
      C5 components and....philosophy?
      Rear suspensions.
      Another that I found by clicking on past links.
      Scrub Radius.

      Ok, it's getting late and I gotta go to work. Hopefully that is what you are looking for, David.
      Brian D
      Snotty Bimmer driver.

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      Yes!
      Thanks! ;)
      67 Camaro RS that will be faster than anything Mary owns.

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      David,

      Here's a link to my front suspension story:

      http://popularhotrodding.com/tech/0505phr_susp/

      I don't know if it's hardcore, but it does have Katz design drawings in it.

      jp
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      Here are a few links specifically dealing with suspension from are little home here, that involve some great conversation and a no non-sense approach to an applicable explaination. Good tech anyway you look at it.......

      Stay bar tech, from the old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1382.topic

      Stay bar rate tech and the math to do it, from the old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1484.topic

      Wheel base discussion, from old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1303.topic

      Track width discussion, from old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1303.topic

      List of good books relating to suspension, from old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1390.topic

      Three link tech, from old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1433.topic

      Drop spindle discussion, from old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1313.topic

    6. #6
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      OK, here's some links from the "evil empire", C-C.com.
      DIY alignments.
      More alignment tech, with links.
      Satchell link rear suspension.
      Torsional rigidity.
      Tire width discussion for performance, not looks.
      Inexpensive high performance tires.
      Tire width/wheel width.
      battery relocation info. (Language warning, for the squeamish.)

      Sorry, that last one was for me so I could reread it later!

      I know, it's a 4th gen Camaro-lots of basic theory being put to use, though.
      Watts link.
      Scrub radius again,
      Serious shocks!

      Ok, starting to go cross-eyed! As before David, please do with these as you wish, I just wanted to toss some stuff out there.

      Some of the pics won't show up unless you are logged in. On that subject, the guys that are looking at this thread and wanting more really need to join over there. A few people here have expressed a dislike for the "attitude" at C-C, to that I would say stay out of the General discussion area! By far, that is where the people with an axe to grind predominate. You are doing yourselves a disservice by ignoring the Suspension forum.
      Brian D
      Snotty Bimmer driver.

    7. #7
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      millikenresearch.com It is the 900 page racecar dynamics bible, all kinds of software for tires and stuff, lots of in detail research, not bench racing theory:icon996:

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      Quote Originally Posted by chicane67
      Here are a few links specifically dealing with suspension from are little home here, that involve some great conversation and a no non-sense approach to an applicable explaination. Good tech anyway you look at it.......

      Stay bar tech, from the old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1382.topic

      Stay bar rate tech and the math to do it, from the old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1484.topic

      Wheel base discussion, from old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1303.topic

      Track width discussion, from old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1303.topic

      List of good books relating to suspension, from old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1390.topic

      Three link tech, from old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1433.topic

      Drop spindle discussion, from old PT site:
      http://p092.ezboard.com/fprotouringg...cID=1313.topic

      Links are dead?
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      Search the Archives forum (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/fo...play.php?f=57).

      Most of them should be there; make sure you've got "Beginning" selected in "Show threads from.." to see all of them. I went to go make sure all of these were copied over last year but the ezboard site didn't have any of them any more.

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      Quote Originally Posted by derekf
      Search the Archives forum (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/fo...play.php?f=57).

      Most of them should be there; make sure you've got "Beginning" selected in "Show threads from.." to see all of them. I went to go make sure all of these were copied over last year but the ezboard site didn't have any of them any more.
      TYVM
      -Ed Nelson

      1967 Firebird.......
      1970 Corvette. -Sold

    11. #11
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      Lots of suspension setup spreadsheets with discussion and a "Getting Started" page at:

      http://home.earthlink.net/~whshope

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      Billy,
      Thanks for providing your great page!!!
      David
      67 Camaro RS that will be faster than anything Mary owns.

    13. #13
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
      millikenresearch.com It is the 900 page racecar dynamics bible, all kinds of software for tires and stuff, lots of in detail research, not bench racing theory:icon996:
      Just came across this thread. The 900 page book is Race Car Vehicle Dynamics. This is as comprehensive and hardcore as anything I've ever seen in print. Other books to go along with it:

      http://www.millikenresearch.com/books.html

    14. #14
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      Here's a good thread on Torsional Rigidity of a Camaro.
      https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=55201
      67 Camaro RS that will be faster than anything Mary owns.

    15. #15
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      What about a link to matching shocks dyno curves to spring/wheel rates and vehicle weights to race applications (autocross and road race).

      Like. I have my wheel rates and I have access to a shock dyno. What dyno curves should you shoot for for autocross and road race? -We run circle track and that has it's own unique shock setups.
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      Don't have any links, but search on "critical damping"
      67 Camaro RS that will be faster than anything Mary owns.

    17. #17
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      Links don't work because of one of the vBulliten updates. Same thing on all vb forums.

    18. #18
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      I'll take this opportunity to update my URL in this old thread. It's now:
      http://www.racetec.cc/shope




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