SpeedTech Subframe

[XLexusTech]

Sounds like you have your mind already set. Enjoy the new sub. It sure is a good looking frame if nothing else.

Sent you an email Howdy neighbor :-)

[69TAPoser]

I ordered it yesterday morning and it should be here next Friday. I may have some issues to address as Speedtech has never bolted-up a Pontiac engine to their frame. Motor mounts may need to be relocated and the steering shaft may interfere with one of the header tubes.

Phil

[sik68]

I am considering this frame as well after I tear the car down for paint. On Speedtech's website I don't see the bolt pattern in the frame for a steering box. Can you only run rack & pinion?

[69TAPoser]

I am considering this frame as well after I tear the car down for paint. On Speedtech's website I don't see the bolt pattern in the frame for a steering box. Can you only run rack & pinion?

I believe you are correct. But this is one of the major benefits of an aftermarket subframe (the ability to easily bolt-in a rack). Of course the other biggies are improved suspension geometry and the ability to run wider tires.

The rack is the MAIN reason I am going aftermarket vs. stock. You wouldn't want to switch to a rack?

Phil

[sik68]

I believe you are correct. But this is one of the major benefits of an aftermarket subframe (the ability to easily bolt-in a rack). Of course the other biggies are improved suspension geometry and the ability to run wider tires.

The rack is the MAIN reason I am going aftermarket vs. stock. You wouldn't want to switch to a rack?

Phil

I think a rack would be great! But, like you, I've already plunked a bunch of money into the Global West suspension bits, as well as the ATS steering box. $2000 bucks is a good price to pay for a lighter frame, additional wheel clearance, g-mod, and the cool factor, but the mandatory extras may add up to more than I want to invest. Then again, that's never stopped me before!

Keep us posted on your site! I hope it turns out awesome!

[XLexusTech]

I but the mandatory extras may add up to more than I want to invest.

Dont forget the few Hundred to ship it (You pay this for any sub)
It adds up fast. That is why this sub IMHO is tough to swallow as the end cost of the ST gets close to no equal to Subs that offer better Geometry things like front steer and direct fit LS motor options AC clearance and so on.
The market for this sub is clearly targeted to those who are already commited by buying contol arms for example.
I think thier is a fairly strong market for slightly used or basically just bolted on part. (the parts are easy to sell with littel loss maybe a 5-10%)

I would take that hit all day long instead of allowing the ownership of those parts drive my Subframe choice.

[scherp69]

I am considering this frame as well after I tear the car down for paint. On Speedtech's website I don't see the bolt pattern in the frame for a steering box. Can you only run rack & pinion?

That's right...you can only run a rack and pinion with it. It's a rear steer set up. When I picked up my subframe from Killer Customs, I was talking to Roger about it as the initial reports that came out about the subframe indicated that you would be able to bolt on a steering box. They had to draw a line somewhere as to how many of the stock parts would still bolt on. I know when I made the decision to buy my SpeedTech subframe, the cost did come into play (it also helped that I'm only 4 hours from them). I ended up going with the complete package though with their high clearance arms, etc. I know I will never use my car in a situation to fully benifit from a DSE or Morrison subframe so I will be very happy with the SpeedTech. I'll never push the SpeedTech frame to it's limits. If you don't plan on using your car and really pushing, is there really a need to spend the extra money for performance mods that you'll likely never even notice. The SpeedTech subframe is a great piece of work, built very well and will add performance mods over stock.....more than I and most driver's will need. As I stated above, I have quite a few pics of the SpeedTech subframe in my build thread and if any of you want any more, let me know and I can snap a few more.

[dhutton]

I ordered it yesterday morning and it should be here next Friday. I may have some issues to address as Speedtech has never bolted-up a Pontiac engine to their frame. Motor mounts may need to be relocated and the steering shaft may interfere with one of the header tubes.

Phil

Didn't Frank bolt a Pontiac engine to this subframe for Empty Nest?

Don

[69TAPoser]

Didn't Frank bolt a Pontiac engine to this subframe for Empty Nest?

Don

I believe he did, but looking at his pics (http://www.prodigycustoms.com/projec...lbum=3&page=15), I think he made a lot of changes (engine mounts and rack location appear to be different).

Speedtech has not done a Pontiac install at their facility yet, so they cannot verify anything related to the Pontiac block.

Phil