Alignment/box questions

[Skip Fix]

OK guys I know increasing caster wil increase the vehicle wanting to center itself. Bt it should do it the same both directions right??

Put a new AGR box on the tow truck get more feel(stock box like grandmas Caddy) maybe more ratio(but no fewer turns lock to lock than stock).
Stock box would center some, only so much caster can be put in it. Same both ways.

New box a little more effort to the left and centers the same as before on left turns. Turning to the right just off center it is ALOT harder and centers itself hard.

Front end alignment wasn't touched so to me it has to be the box.

Any thoughts?

[CraigMBA]

If it were me, I'd put the old box back in.

[Patrick]

I put an AGR Box and Pump in my Jeep Scrambler....Same exact issues. After a ton of emails, I sent it back to them for inspection. AGR claimed that a valve was the problem. The problem is a little better but not much. I won't buy their products any more.

[Skip Fix]

New box is going to come off. Ratio is supposed to be better but I sure can't tell it either. Some amount of turns of wheel.

Box looks nice though!

[CraigMBA]

If it's the same ammount of turns of the wheel, it's the same ratio you have now.

[pitts64]

Skip, I also tried all there suggestions.. I bought the Lee 12 to 1....

[David Pozzi]

The stiff feel boxes don't have as much self return. Part of it might be that the box is new and tight, but the stiff valving has to be part of it.
David

[Skip Fix]

We bleed it by turning each way unloaded several times, plus I've driven it for about 10 days now, and several lock to locks. No change HARD to the right and back to center. Left what I would feel is the normal slight increase and same as stock return to center.

I've swapped boxes a number of times on my second gens and never had one feel like this.

[MonzaRacer]

first of all the new bos is ALL NEW whereas most other box changes are remans (clean good inspected parts) or used. Most NEW boxes will be hard for a period of time. Bleeding is crucial and using quality synthetic fluid will make them break in with less trouble.
I also agree bleed when they are loose not attached to the linkage.
Also even on new boxes I have had to sometimes back off the preload screw an 1/8th of turn at a time to sometimes as most new boxes are adjusted to "specs" which is an inch pound torque wrench (or machine reading same spec) and just because it works on a test stand doesnt mean its going to be right on car.
I swapped a YB fast box from a Monte SS into a friends Malibu Wagon and the wagon has all new parts and felt like crap for a few months(took all I had to get fella to drive it, but when he started driving it got better but it took me 4 tries to get it adjusted for the Malibu, He put 18s in the Malibu and I had to readjust it again.
Do what you feel is best and good luck.
Lee

[Skip Fix]

I could understand it being hard being new, but I would expect it to be both ways.

[MonzaRacer]

Well some boxes and parts are very different and it also depends on the centering of the front end too.
Also when your alignment is set dont forget to split the caster by a hlaf a degree less positive on the left(drivers) side.
This helps the car climb the road crowns and not drift right BUT all cars are different some dont like any split or even slpit the otherway. But most cars still need the split.
After doing alignments and race car suspension setups for the last 18 yrs I have a lot of experience.
Good Luck
Lee Abel
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