sequential shift tranny

[CraigMorrison]

Paddle shifted sequential manual transmission for hot rods? Yeah sure. Piece of cake. No Problema.

If this is a piece of cake, can I have a slice?

Steve- thanks for the call, Mark thanks for sharing the discussion with Quaife, Frank let us know how it goes.......

After hearing the ins and outs and seeing this diagram, I guess I can see why Divers (Tim Divers Street Rods) decided to forgo the paddle shift option on the Ferrari drive-trained Rambler wagon. Also sounds (from conversation with Steve) like auto/Shrifter combo is a WHOLE LOT LESS hassle and definitely the way to go if you are looking for to paddle shift. What turned out to be a casual thought over coffee turned out to be a pretty informative. Thanks guys!

[andrewb70]

...Uhh you mean like a hot rod driven on the street?

I am not sure that I follow you.

If you are saying that adapting a system like the one used in the Austin Martin to a Hot Rod is a monumental task, then I whole heartedly agree. Although the other day I was reading in Grassroots Motorsports that there is a Paraplegic driver running in the NASA AI series and her car has been outfitted with the Aston Martin T56 and everything taht is needed to make the paddle shifting functional. There are probably thousands and thousands of hours that were spent on programming the system to work as flawlessly as you would expect in a $225K car.

Andrew

[kp.touring]

Craig,
We are building a 69 Vette with Quaffe sequential 6 speed and an aluminum, injected big block. It was 5 1/2 months to get and all most 20k. Also it not a bolt up it the trans was designed for racing Vipers.

Kevin
Campbell Auto Restoration [CAR]

[Bob Johnson]

As I said, it's $20k, actually a tick north, i just rounded numbers, been to school, got a tee shirt, LOL! If things go as planed, we may be doing this soon, very soon, so we may very well be the test dummy.

I looked into the sequential trans when I was figuring out what trans to use in the Cuda. They just don't like to be shifted at low RPM and throttle..plus they are noiser than all get out. Not counting expensive to start with and also repairing them. I nixxed the idea. Doug Cooper has been looking into them for the Camaro he's wanting to build..

[CraigMorrison]

Craig,
We are building a 69 Vette with Quaffe sequential 6 speed and an aluminum, injected big block. It was 5 1/2 months to get and all most 20k. Also it not a bolt up it the trans was designed for racing Vipers.

Kevin
Campbell Auto Restoration [CAR]

Kevin- Thanks for the imput. Hey, has there been any press releases on this car.......it's ringing a bell or maybe ...Is it being done like a LaMans racer?

[Steve Chryssos]

I am not sure that I follow you.
Andrew

Just referring back to Craig's original post. I want to distinguish betwen race applications and street applications. Craig inquired about a paddle shifted manual trans for a street car. Craig's application (a hot rod) requires all of the electronics in my diagram. Your statements regarding race car sequential transmissions are all accurate.

That bad ass race car sequential equipment is fairly useless for paralell parking and K-Turns

We are in agreement.

[andrewb70]

We are in agreement.

I know...

Andrew

[zbugger]

..... I was reading in Grassroots Motorsports that there is a quadraplegic driver running in the NASA AI series and her car has been outfitted with the Austin Martin T56 and....

Are you sure you don't mean Paraplegic? I'd love to see a quad driving a car.....

[andrewb70]

Are you sure you don't mean Paraplegic? I'd love to see a quad driving a car.....

DUUUHHHHH...

Thanks for pointing that out. I edited myself...LOL

Andrew

[jeff s]

Hollinger was the one I couldn't think of. Ron Adee had one of those in his Carbon Fiber Dodge Ram One Lap truck. I road shotgun around Road America with him for 20 minutes. Really a sweet box. Like Andrew said, only used the clutch to take off, just bumped the lever up or down everywhere else.

[andrewb70]

Hollinger was the one I couldn't think of. Ron Adee had one of those in his Carbon Fiber Dodge Ram One Lap truck. I road shotgun around Road America with him for 20 minutes. Really a sweet box. Like Andrew said, only used the clutch to take off, just bumped the lever up or down everywhere else.

Ron's truck also uses a Quarter Master 3 disk 7.25" clutch. Good stuff, but definitely not street friendly.

Andrew

[Matt]

Aside from the cool factor it boils down to 'you really don't want one'. If you want the cool factor go with the shrifter.

Also straight cut gears are indeed very very noisy, I had what amounted to a half-dog box on my last car (I had a helluva time keeping a tranny together) and it was damn near deafening.



But...If you still want one....
Holinger does have a system that should work as they use Holinger boxes on the Monaro (which, despite details, is still an SBC).

Oh, and it's ASTON Martin, not Austin martin...sigh.

[andrewb70]

Oh, and it's ASTON Martin, not Austin martin...sigh.

What can I say...English is my second language.

Andrew

[customcam]

thers also a company called Gertrag
Craig hows the Corvette coming along was at ur site but its in lock down mode lol

[jeff s]

I bet the sequential box is worth 2-3 seconds per lap at Road America and a lot easier.

[CraigMorrison]

thers also a company called Gertrag
Craig hows the Corvette coming along was at ur site but its in lock down mode lol

The Vette is now at the paint shop. It's in good company....a 300SL Mercedes gullwing and Ferrari's first Testarosa, built in 1956 (serial number 666). The Ferrari is getting color this week and then the bondo starts flying on our ride.

The password file is pics of the car with all the trim, tires & wheels, brakes, roll-hoops etc. in place. I needed a place to host the pics to show the magazine dudes, sponsors, industry friends etc.

We should get the car back sometime in July and start with assembly. Can't wait the car is going to be killer.

[Matt]

Wow... wow... those are some amazing cars. You're a man of taste.

I can host all the files for ya.. PM me and we'll figure it out.

[customcam]

Do we get a sneek peek?

[CraigMorrison]

Here's the teazer pic.......
The roll hoop(s) bolt into a cage structure that straddles the gas tank. Note: Windshield posts have been modified to remove wing window notch - car is a true roadster, no side glass. Custom aluminum console, dash is being painted and gauge pod has been wrapped in carbon fiber.

Now for the meat and po-ta-toes:
All aluminum 427 Mitchell engine w/FAST fuel injection
T56- 6 speed prepped by Rockland Standard
our chassis, C5 front tri 4-bar rear, 15:1 R&P
18" wheels 265 / 295 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Tires
14" Wilwood brakes
Strange Engineering adjustable coil-overs

Top of the windshield to ground 45" Top of door 29.5"

Will make its debut at the K&N booth at SEMA

[Mean 69]

Yep, that's low. I just measured my wife's 62 door height, it's about 36". That car is stock. For now.

The hoop is a really good idea, driving our car is pretty scary with no seat belts, and you sit WAY high in it, very uneasy feeling. Plus, it has to be the absolute worst handling car I have ever driven in my entire life, bar none, even though everything is completely functional as it came from the factory. Doesn't matter though, it's a 62 vette, and that makes it darn near as cool as it gets.

Cool project.
M