Steering box

[KnightmareZ]

Which mounts are you using? I was planning on using the black heart mounts and trans xmember. Also been reading alot about pressure modifications and how everything connects on the lines and steering column... I'm probably just overthinking this lol

[ajaccola]

I am using these mounts. "Classic Performance Engine Mounts LS1-KU-P"

[Josh@Ridetech]

We use (and offer both) the TurnOne and Borgeson boxes on our cars. They're both extremely nice pieces that work very well.

Turnone - Offered in both a 12.7:1 or 10:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

Borgeson - Offered in a 12.7:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

Let me know if you have any questions on anything!

[minendrews68]

We use (and offer both) the TurnOne and Borgeson boxes on our cars. They're both extremely nice pieces that work very well.

Turnone - Offered in both a 12.7:1 or 10:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

Borgeson - Offered in a 12.7:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

Let me know if you have any questions on anything!

Nightmarez I apologize for getting into your thread but thought it would be easier to ask Josh a question here than start a new thread about steering boxes.

Josh, I have a stock power steering box on my '68 Camaro. I was having a problem with it sometimes locking up (still being able to get back home) and checked the screen filter on the powersteering pump. I also added a filter on the low pressure side. Since then I've had a problem with it being hard to steer (like there's a place it hangs, not the same place every time). I have checked and nothing hits the box or anything associated with it. I have one header tube that is pretty close but doesn't hit the box. When it's cold or motor just started I don't have a problem. After it heats up is when the problem begins. Any ideas?

Thanks Carl

[ULTM8Z]

We use (and offer both) the TurnOne and Borgeson boxes on our cars. They're both extremely nice pieces that work very well.

Turnone - Offered in both a 12.7:1 or 10:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

Borgeson - Offered in a 12.7:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

Let me know if you have any questions on anything!

+1 on the borgeson. Just installed one and love it. Also get their u-joint steering shaft kit. My '71 Camaro feels every bit as precise as my wifes 2017 infinity.

[KnightmareZ]

Josh, Thanks for the reply
Quick question... Which pitman arm will I need? You are showing one for P/S and one for M/S.
I assume my car came with manual steering but I stripped everything down and am running all ridetech.
All I need now is the box, idler and pitman.
Thanks

[TheBandit]

We use (and offer both) the TurnOne and Borgeson boxes on our cars. They're both extremely nice pieces that work very well.

Turnone - Offered in both a 12.7:1 or 10:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

Borgeson - Offered in a 12.7:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

Let me know if you have any questions on anything!

Do both the Turnone and Borgeson boxes use the same T-bar size on the 12.7:1 boxes? Turn one says they use a 0.210" T-bar, but I can't find info on the Borgeson box.
*EDIT* In the Q&A section on Summit Racing, Borgeson responded to questions stating "Box has an equivalent to a .210 torsion bar feel with a positive center and quick ratio." I'll take that as roughly equivalent to the Turn One box, but curious to hear feedback from anyone that's tried both.

[kimosabi]

We use (and offer both) the TurnOne and Borgeson boxes on our cars. They're both extremely nice pieces that work very well.

Turnone - Offered in both a 12.7:1 or 10:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

Borgeson - Offered in a 12.7:1 ratio - https://www.ridetech.com/products/st...-steering-box/

Let me know if you have any questions on anything!

Josh, whats the turn radius on these boxes? My 70's stock steering box was like a tractor, awesome steering radius. Replaced it with a refurb box that was quicker but had way less steering radius. It's great on the track and roads but parking is so much less than before it's a pain to park in tight areas. I only replaced the box, all else original serviced parts.

[Josh@Ridetech]

Do both the Turnone and Borgeson boxes use the same T-bar size on the 12.7:1 boxes? Turn one says they use a 0.210" T-bar, but I can't find info on the Borgeson box.
*EDIT* In the Q&A section on Summit Racing, Borgeson responded to questions stating "Box has an equivalent to a .210 torsion bar feel with a positive center and quick ratio." I'll take that as roughly equivalent to the Turn One box, but curious to hear feedback from anyone that's tried both.

I just now saw your question, sorry bud! I have been told that the torsion bar in the Borgeson piece is a .210" as well.

Josh, whats the turn radius on these boxes? My 70's stock steering box was like a tractor, awesome steering radius. Replaced it with a refurb box that was quicker but had way less steering radius. It's great on the track and roads but parking is so much less than before it's a pain to park in tight areas. I only replaced the box, all else original serviced parts.

The box itself is right at a 2.5" turn (lock to lock) box. As far as the actual turning radius, that depends on the car and the suspension setup. The steering stops/steering arms on the control arms are typically what lock everything up before the box stops turning.

[kimosabi]

I just now saw your question, sorry bud! I have been told that the torsion bar in the Borgeson piece is a .210" as well.

The box itself is right at a 2.5" turn (lock to lock) box. As far as the actual turning radius, that depends on the car and the suspension setup. The steering stops/steering arms on the control arms are typically what lock everything up before the box stops turning.

So what I should ask is: Do you know the output/pitman shaft turning amount of degrees on those two boxes you offer?

[Jeff_G]

The Borgeson 800130 power steering box has 88 degrees of total available rotation.

[KnightmareZ]

I am using these mounts. "Classic Performance Engine Mounts LS1-KU-P"

Thanks I'll check those out

[Josh@Ridetech]

Nightmarez I apologize for getting into your thread but thought it would be easier to ask Josh a question here than start a new thread about steering boxes.

Josh, I have a stock power steering box on my '68 Camaro. I was having a problem with it sometimes locking up (still being able to get back home) and checked the screen filter on the powersteering pump. I also added a filter on the low pressure side. Since then I've had a problem with it being hard to steer (like there's a place it hangs, not the same place every time). I have checked and nothing hits the box or anything associated with it. I have one header tube that is pretty close but doesn't hit the box. When it's cold or motor just started I don't have a problem. After it heats up is when the problem begins. Any ideas?

Thanks Carl

That is a good question. It could be something to do with the box when everything heats up but I'm not 100% sure. On something like that, Borgeson can probably give you some more solid advice. They might know some more quirky things about the boxes that I wouldn't think of. Another thing that could be causing an issue (that gets overlooked alot) are the balljoints. I have seen it a few times where they can heat up, metal expands, and they can also start feeling notchy and start catching. Just trying to think of anything and everything...

+1 on the borgeson. Just installed one and love it. Also get their u-joint steering shaft kit. My '71 Camaro feels every bit as precise as my wifes 2017 infinity.

Same here! I put one in my Firebird and it was a tremendous difference.

Josh, Thanks for the reply
Quick question... Which pitman arm will I need? You are showing one for P/S and one for M/S.
I assume my car came with manual steering but I stripped everything down and am running all ridetech.
All I need now is the box, idler and pitman.
Thanks

No problem at all! You would want to use the P/S arm for this box.

[minendrews68]

That is a good question. It could be something to do with the box when everything heats up but I'm not 100% sure. On something like that, Borgeson can probably give you some more solid advice. They might know some more quirky things about the boxes that I wouldn't think of. Another thing that could be causing an issue (that gets overlooked alot) are the balljoints. I have seen it a few times where they can heat up, metal expands, and they can also start feeling notchy and start catching. Just trying to think of anything and everything...

Same here! I put one in my Firebird and it was a tremendous difference.


No problem at all! You would want to use the P/S arm for this box.

Thanks Josh..