20's on first gen?

[Travis B]

i guess i am anti-performance. however, the global west tubular control arms, b-body spindles, 13.5 wilwood brakes, 1 1/4 sway bar, air-ride shockwaves, and air bags and QA-1 shocks in the rear with over 11.2 contact patch of tire would like to diss agree. i think air-bags are going to be a wave of the future. i have springs with air that i can change the rate of at any point and time. the car handles just as good as my first gen with alot of handling mods and 18s. in fact the car handles better. i guess im Anti-performance however. :3gears:

I wouldn't be too concerned Y-try has been on here and lat-g popping off one liners. He has provided nothing to back anything up yet....he'll just keep rambling and no one will listen to him!



There is am article in an upcoming PHr mag that will show that air bags can preform just as good as a regular bolt on car...but them you have the ability to hammer it so it doesn't look like the rest of the cars sitting in the lot.

[Y-TRY]

Dang, man, harsh. I always try to interject humor in my posts, not offend people. And I started off saying "IMO". So, what do I need to bring to the table to back that's it's my opinion? I don't state it as fact, I just state it as my opinion. You're not trying to sell me your car, so you can take it or leave it. My one-liners arte intended to be light-hearted.

But I may be wrong about the air bag suspension thing. I've never seen performance-oriented air bag suspension, but apparently it does exist. My statement is just that it seems a bit like function-following-fashion.

I stand behind the point that tall-tired 17's mixed with short-tired 20's will end up detracting from the handling on a 1st Gen Camaro.

[Travis B]

I stand behind the point that tall-tired 17's mixed with short-tired 20's will end up detracting from the handling on a 1st Gen Camaro.

I am not denying that at all......this has been a well covered subject here. All facts have been made clear that 20's don't perform as well as 18's. The truth is some people are willing to give that extra performance to get an overall look that they are after.

And yes there are performance based air ride suspensions, I doubt air bags will be taking over for track only cars but they do perform just as well as your typical bolt on car.....

I for one do not take the internet seriously so don't think I am like mad or something lol, and if your comments(one liners) were intended to be light hearted then thats great...

[camaro608]

if they dont rub go for it!

[Y-TRY]

I am not denying that at all......this has been a well covered subject here. All facts have been made clear that 20's don't perform as well as 18's. The truth is some people are willing to give that extra performance to get an overall look that they are after.

But I get jumped on for saying that 20's are anti-performance? Not trying to argue it's just that I said the same thing and kinda got berated for it. (is that a word?)

[Travis B]

But I get jumped on for saying that 20's are anti-performance? Not trying to argue it's just that I said the same thing and kinda got berated for it. (is that a word?)

This thread didn't start by saying will 20's out preform 18's....Obviously they won't. And The guy that started the thread just wanted to know if they would fit....We were trying t help the guy and let him know what fits and what to do make it look the best with what he wants...then you come on here saying 20's look street rod and why would you want them they are anti-performance, then you say why don't you just put air bags on it etc etc then post up some worthless picture of a bike. if you didn't have anything to add the post that was positive then why even say anything?

[Y-TRY]

man, why stop at 20's? Just do what this guy did;

You are going to catch some flack for asking about putting 20's on a stock suspended non tubbed first gen here, as that has no performance attributes whatsoever. HOWEVER for some actual answers we need more specs, like your rideheight, tire size you plan, wheel width, etc...

IMHO that car looks like what I just flushed. The only time that car moves is on and off of the trailer. You cannot get that low with that large of rims w/o major metal and suspension work.

Technically anything over a 17" wheel is a performance compromise but who cares.. if you like the "look" then go for it. As stated Jason ran 20's on the back of his with minimal mods (if any).. I personally don't like anything over an 18 on a Camaro. The bigger wheels work better on bigger cars (like some Mopars). It also depends on the wheel.. some designs look bigger than they are and some smaller. Oh, and nothing looks worse than small brakes behind huge wheels IMO..

If you do it just know that it is hurting your performance.. If that is ok with you then great. It is just funny when someone tries to act like thier 20's or 19's are somehow not putting form over function.

How about 19's and 18's? You could still mount up huge ass brakes, look great and perform better than the 20's.. just an idea.. Most of all, do what YOU like

... do I need to go on? Alot of guys are trying to talk him out of 20's with no more negativity than I interjected, and actually mirroring my thoughts exactly. I'd also tell a friend if they had food in their teeth. Just trying to help. I don't know what your issue is with me, Travis, but whatever. You come out flaming on me for basically repeating 50% of the sentiment of this whole thread. It was just my .02, and it's worth no more or less than yours.

[JoshStratton]

Thats enough. I think his post has been hijacked enough. Lets just let it go before his thread gets closed. He is looking for valuable information and because we try to keep it a friendly environment, this thread is in danger if it goes much further.

Y-Try: just know that we all know Yody so his first post was taken with a light-heart and his 2nd was seeking the information we need to solve his problem. Until we get to know someone, we dont know how to react when they kid around and we arent sure if they are kidding. This is a really great group of car people and Travis is one of the best. Dont worry about it and have a good time...we are all friends here.

Wow...my medication must be working.

[third base]

Just to end this heated topic, I decided to say what the hell and go with the 20/17. No, it will not perform as well but I think it is the look I want to achieve with this car. all of the input was very much appreciated. thank you. as for the mild humor and one liner's thanks for those also. I know everybody has their own opinion and I can respect each and every one. if everybody had the same opinion we would all be driving pro-touring camaros, LOL. I will post pics when available. And will again be open for opinions. thanks again.

[JoshStratton]

Hey Third, I thought of something. Do you know anyone with 20's and someone with 17's? Maybe you could get them together and try them on your car. At least you will see what they look like before you spend the money. I heard Frank from ProdigyCustoms did that and thought it was a good idea. Sometimes people will let you pay for the shipping and they will send you theirs to try out as well. Dunno...something to think about. I hope to do that with my next set of rims.

[USAZR1]

Awright,let's quit acting like a bunch of juveniles. Click on the El Camino link in my sig,scroll down,and click on the 68 El Camino link. There's lot of photos of the car to check out.

[JoshStratton]

I'd like to see that as well.

[parsonsj]

Yes the 20+ subject has been covered here and elsewhere. I think the original poster (third base) understands the tradeoffs now ... and he just wants to know what will fit and what others think of the "look". No need for more edumacation about the horrors of big wheels, at least in this thread.

jp

[68renner]

you wanted to see what a 17 and 20 combo would look like, here you go.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...QQcmdZViewItem

I ran across this today scrolling ebay. I agree with the guys, too much stagger AND too much tire on the front compared to the rear!

[third base]

I agree, too much tire showing in the front , but, my car is drastically lower than that one. I have roughly 3" of clearence between my headers and the ground. I am hoping to tuck as much tire as possible. I want to achieve a slammed/rake look. Thanks for the pic. It is the first I have seen with that combo.

[ViperBlue68]

That doesnt look too horrible on that pic...but I'd prolly still go with 18s or 19s in the front just my .02 cents...those look like the Coys on that car kinda look like KMCs wheels as well tho???

[Y-TRY]

Sorry about that, Third. It sounds like you have a good idea of what you are going for. I hope you were able to gleen some ideas from the suggestions on here. Good luck with the project.

[JoshStratton]

I was looking at some of my Goodguys pics and ran across this:

http://www.jennstratton.com/carstuff...ges/gfx_63.jpg

I think it might have even been in the SMOY Top 5.

[Travis B]

19's and 22's

you are correct it was a SMOY contender

I was looking at some of my Goodguys pics and ran across this:

http://www.jennstratton.com/carstuff...ges/gfx_63.jpg

I think it might have even been in the SMOY Top 5.

[JoshStratton]

Doh! My bad I thought those looked smaller than that.