Protouring Raffle Poll

[Steve1968LS2]

Responces:
1. The build would be driven by a budget (I would imagine). If you are within that constraint, then let the owner be involved in the car's direction.

2. True, can't argue with that. But, DIY and overhaulin do it all the time, granted those are give-aways and not raffles.



3. Liability is only paperwork. There would have to be some sort of release for any car give away.

4. Schedule could be defined in the Rules and Conditions.

5. You could do this with any car.

Personally, I like the idea of having my own car done most. I think that would drive ticket sales as much as being able to market a car. My answers are not educated through any experience, so I may be off base, but these are my thoughts on the above isssues.

Valid points but what if the owner has a 64 Riviera and wants that done.. now you have a car with little to no aftermarket (that equals no donated parts) and a LOT more fab work. Also, since there is no car being raffled it will be impossible to get sponsors on board since they will not even know if the winning car will be able to use thier products.

There is something anti-climatic about raffleing off a promise where all the action takes place AFTER the winner is chosen and everyone quits caring as much because they don't have a horse in the race any more.

Also, what about the guys that want to play but don't have a car? The Overhauling approach is good in concept but tough to execute, especially from a marketing standpoint.. When you are advertising the raffle what would you show? An empty lift with the words "imagine your car here"? By having a tangeble item that people can see and want you are selling something rather than the idea of something.

The excitement of the Raffle pretty much ends once the winner is picked. By building the car afterwards the interest level in the build will be very minimal compared to watching the build of a car that YOU MIGHT WIN. Watching the car come together is the sort of thing that makes people buy tickets and pay attention.

I hope some of that made sense..

[rob07002]

Valid points but what if the owner has a 64 Riviera and wants that done.. now you have a car with little to no aftermarket (that equals no donated parts) and a LOT more fab work. Also, since there is no car being raffled it will be impossible to get sponsors on board since they will not even know if the winning car will be able to use thier products.

There is something anti-climatic about raffleing off a promise where all the action takes place AFTER the winner is chosen and everyone quits caring as much because they don't have a horse in the race any more.

Also, what about the guys that want to play but don't have a car? The Overhauling approach is good in concept but tough to execute, especially from a marketing standpoint.. When you are advertising the raffle what would you show? An empty lift with the words "imagine your car here"? By having a tangeble item that people can see and want you are selling something rather than the idea of something.

The excitement of the Raffle pretty much ends once the winner is picked. By building the car afterwards the interest level in the build will be very minimal compared to watching the build of a car that YOU MIGHT WIN. Watching the car come together is the sort of thing that makes people buy tickets and pay attention.

I hope some of that made sense..

Steve you sold me!

I'll take one "Mule" convertible in 2005 Mercedes charcoal gray metallic, white houndstooth deluxe int, white top, and with white z stripes.....PLEASE!

[kmcanally]

amen brother Steve....

Is there any talk about PHR getting involved and featuring the build-up month to month like they did for the Mule and Malitude? This publicity might help get more manufactures on board because of the obvious exposure. If the build-up articles are anywhere near as popular as the Mule buildup it would be a huge success.

[MuscleRodz]

I was not implying that every decision be put up for vote and turning it into a circus. But I think there should be a certain amount of member involvement besides buying tickets.

Mike

[Travis B]

I was not implying that every decision be put up for vote and turning it into a circus. But I think there should be a certain amount of member involvement besides buying tickets.

Mike

I agree Mike

Maybe....

Color, wheels, interior theme, powertrain! Do a poll just like this post

[Bill Howell]

I have enjoyed reading all the comments here. As everyone can see, there are alot of issues to address here before any tickets go on sell.
However I feel we can work through them.
As for what parts we would use, I am sure whatever venders stepped up first would be on board. Hopefully some of them that lurk here will see the potential of this and step up. When you are looking for donated parts, it is hard to kick a gift horse in the teeth.
Of course, no decision has been made about who would build it, but I will assure everyone that Frank has much more experience with raffles than anyone else who has stepped up so he will certainly be involved with that part of the promotion. I know that his shop is swamped with work at the moment, and not sure he has the time, even if we wanted him to do it, but that is not an issue at the moment anyway.
SEMA 2006 would be the planned give away date, so as everyone can see, this is something that must start soon.
Mike, I agree with you 100% that members here should be involved in some of the decisions and direction of the build. Certainly, we could not build something that would rival the mule, but this will be a car anyone here would be proud to own.
As with any give away, there would be a tax consequence for the winner. No different than hitting the jackpot at the slots, or winning a car off the radio. That is a fact of life and I for one do not want the tax man on me.
Tony, Travis and others, I hear you about the 69 Camaro choice. As Steve pointed out, like it or not it is the hot item right now and so many aftermarket parts out there that it just makes sense to build one for our first car. Everyone knows that I like 69's too, but surely understands they are not my first choice. However, I just think we would get the best bang for the buck with one. If this one is a hit though, the next one would be something different.
Lastly let me add this, I am just throwing things out there right now, trying to get a feel of where this is heading. I am in no way speaking for Larry, Ralph or anyone else, just gathering information. I do feel this is something that will work, but also am a realist and know that the homework has to be done first.
Thanks again for all the imput and feel free to add to this discussion as you think of things.

[HatTrick]

Valid points but what if the owner has a 64 Riviera and wants that done.. now you have a car with little to no aftermarket (that equals no donated parts) and a LOT more fab work. Also, since there is no car being raffled it will be impossible to get sponsors on board since they will not even know if the winning car will be able to use thier products.

There is something anti-climatic about raffleing off a promise where all the action takes place AFTER the winner is chosen and everyone quits caring as much because they don't have a horse in the race any more.

Also, what about the guys that want to play but don't have a car? The Overhauling approach is good in concept but tough to execute, especially from a marketing standpoint.. When you are advertising the raffle what would you show? An empty lift with the words "imagine your car here"? By having a tangeble item that people can see and want you are selling something rather than the idea of something.

The excitement of the Raffle pretty much ends once the winner is picked. By building the car afterwards the interest level in the build will be very minimal compared to watching the build of a car that YOU MIGHT WIN. Watching the car come together is the sort of thing that makes people buy tickets and pay attention.

I hope some of that made sense..

Thanks for replying. You are dead on about the exitement dying off at the end of the raffle. I'm convinced. :icon996: :icon996:

Either way, I'm still in for a couple tickets.

[Steve1968LS2]

Thanks for replying. You are dead on about the exitement dying off at the end of the raffle. I'm convinced. :icon996: :icon996:

Either way, I'm still in for a couple tickets.

I'm like that broken clock that is right twice a day.. lol..

Keep in mind the POLL Choices other than $50 or $100 were added way after the poll started so the higher dollar choices were not available to the first 40 people who voted..

And we have lots of lurkers here on pt.com that would not vote but would probley buy a ticket. I say sell raffle tickets to those outside the site if necessary to make it a success..

[Jim Nilsen]

Doesn't it just make sense to go with the $50 ticket. You increase your odds to win with 2 tickets for $100 even if there are twice as many people in the raffle. I'm not a big gambler but I still know that 2 chances are better than one.

Watch me pull a pt car out of my .......

Jim Nilsen