R they really that Fast?

[James OLC]

The Yearone car...Maybe, but I highly doubt that Brian's or Kyle's Camaros cost more to build than a brand new GTR. If I had to guess....$50K-$60K. They probably have more into them over the years with engine/transmission swaps...upgrades etc...But to build a car the way they have it now? I would say $50K

Camaro $3-5K
DSE Front $10K
DSE Rear $10K
LS7 $15K
Magnum $3K
Misc $15K

Rob - will all due respect. You are out of touch.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

The Yearone car...Maybe, but I highly doubt that Brian's or Kyle's Camaros cost more to build than a brand new GTR. If I had to guess....$50K-$60K. They probably have more into them over the years with engine/transmission swaps...upgrades etc...But to build a car the way they have it now? I would say $50K

Camaro $3-5K
DSE Front $10K
DSE Rear $10K
LS7 $15K
Magnum $3K
Misc $15K

[Todd in Vancouver]

Rob - will all due respect. You are out of touch.

Rob, sorry to say but ya that is WAY wrong. You've seen the current state of my car on the rotisserie and getting ready to media blast and I'm pushing $40K and I have SBC 350. It wouldn't take much to break $100K and I would guess that most of the really nice stuff that show up in Camaro Performers are going to be north of $200K. JMHO...

[srh3trinity]

You would have to factor in the man hours into the YearOne, DSE, Finch builds too. Sure they right it off as these cars are their rolling business cards, but these shops probably (and should) charge top dollar for their builds. A Quadra-Link install and a tub job will cost a pretty penny in labor alone. So for the average guy, you have got to think they would pay somebody to do a good bit of that. I have been quoted 25-35K on paint and body alone on the high end. I have pinched every penny I can and I would guess that my build will go north of 40K or more. I haven't had the guts to sit down with the calculator and reciepts. Ignorance is bliss.

[icemanrd19]

The Yearone car...Maybe, but I highly doubt that Brian's or Kyle's Camaros cost more to build than a brand new GTR. If I had to guess....$50K-$60K. They probably have more into them over the years with engine/transmission swaps...upgrades etc...But to build a car the way they have it now? I would say $50K

Camaro $3-5K
DSE Front $10K
DSE Rear $10K
LS7 $15K
Magnum $3K
Misc $15K

more like
Camaro if you are lucky 5k
dse front 9k
front runner 2k
dse rear 8k
Brakes 4k
wheels and tires 4-6k
fuel 2k
ls7 15k
t56 setup 4k
seats and safety low ball 1k
8-15k body work. safe to say 10k to throw numbers together

Honestly you can spend 70k on a nice car quick.

[badazz81z28]

That's a C5 Corvette. Box-stock they had about 345 hp and pulled about 1G.... of course a lot of them have been warmed over. I used to spend a lot of time driving a '99 with about 390hp, and it pulled pretty hard.

(Sorry for the hijack)

Yes, it really depends if he has worked over the engine. The LS1 is capable of big power. Slap some ported head, cam, intake, headers etc...you will make 520+hp. My LS1 puts down 455 to the tires and I have a somewhat mild cam.

[71RS/SS396]

The Yearone car...Maybe, but I highly doubt that Brian's or Kyle's Camaros cost more to build than a brand new GTR. If I had to guess....$50K-$60K. They probably have more into them over the years with engine/transmission swaps...upgrades etc...But to build a car the way they have it now? I would say $50K

Camaro $3-5K
DSE Front $10K
DSE Rear $10K
LS7 $15K
Magnum $3K
Misc $15K

Um, you need to put a 1 or 2 in front of $50K number and it would be more realistic of the actual build cost, my car is a lighter version of Kyle's car and I could of bought 2 GTR's for the build cost, grant it we built the car in 8 mos so the labor was crazy expensive but top notch parts are spendy as well.
The engine cost is likely $20K +, the brakes on Kyle's car are $8k plus $1,500 for the floater conversion ( not including the cost of the housing and 3rd member), the trans and clutch combo are $5k-$6k ....etc it adds up fast.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

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[daredvl22]

Ha ha,....that's funny. I keep a spreadsheet of every part I've purchased to build my Camaro, with date, part#, etc. etc. I'm currently just under $60k and that does not include motor,trans, most of interior, etc. Not to mention, labor! Since I'm doing it all myself, I don't include labor. This is my hobby. If you really think you can build one of these cars for $50k, well.....I can confirm from my own experiences, not possible. I'm sure some people have built great pro-touring cars for less, but when you start getting into the "I'm not cutting corners", and I want the absolute best parts available,...it just doesn't happen.

[Poopy]

My buddies camaro is up to $40k in paint and body alone....never mind all the other stuff!






He was going to buy a GTR but I talked him into this.....so he compromised and used a GTR color. :P

[srh3trinity]

My buddies camaro is up to $40k in paint and body alone....never mind all the other stuff!





He was going to buy a GTR but I talked him into this.....so he compromised and used a GTR color. :P

What wheels are those?

[Poopy]

What wheels are those?

fikse

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

jeebus that ass!!!

[badazz81z28]

I wasn't calculating any labor...I guess if you start adding in the labor, the cost increases dramatically. I know what body and paint can do to a budget in a hurry. If you add the cost of the parts alone, I really think you can do it for less than the six figures as mentioned, but like anything...you pay someone to do it for you; there is no telling.

[dangina]

what tires are the protouring cars running? does bfgoodrich sponsers their tires? I think the biggest reason for the imports winning on the show is they're running Hoosiers A6's Or Advan's AO48's and from the look of some of the tires on the pro cars, they seem like their running bfgoodrich radial tires? It would explain how they are losing grip on the second or third laps and the imports just seem to walk away...

[srh3trinity]

I saw GTR's running today at OLOA and those things are legit race ready cars. They blistered that course.

[d15b7]

all the cars on the show (both imports and rednecks) were required to run 200 treadwear or greater street tires. i think that most all of the rednecks were running BFG street tires. my civic was running Dunlop Direzza Starspec street tires. and yes those GTRs, especially when tuned up, are true super cars. AWD is a huge huge huge advantage especially when running street tires (you can put down basically twice the power). all the OLOA cars have to run street tires too (one set only for the entire race/transit everything).

[nekkidhillbilly]

The whole track is not even a mile in length. That is the perfect scenario for a lightweight low powered car to do well against a high powered heavy car. Run the event on my hometown Mosport Park (its actually the fastest track the ALMS series races on) with an uphill 3/4 mile long straight with a 4th gear turn at the end and see what those big power musclecars will do to those imports.




Heres a pic of my Iroc at a track day at Mosport. That Corvette ahead of me was in my group. The car looked very stock to me. My car has a good running 305 tpi 5 spd in it, about the same power as a stock 5.0 Mustang. Out of the 2nd and third gear corners on the track that Vette would pull away pretty good but I could make it up late braking and sliding the car through the next corner.

However, you come on to that 3/4 mi long straight in the bottom of second gear and he would pull away smartly at that point but not REAL bad (like what you saw the MCs do on the show) but by the time I hit 4th gear he was fading off into the distance VERY quickly and into 5th he was a little dot way the h ell up there!!. Given the chance to stretch its legs that car kicked my azz BAD! So the moral is you see the MCs spank the imports pretty good power wise on a little wee track like that, they would run away and hide on a real track. At least on the straights.

I dont know much about Vettes...anyone know how much power that thing would have. Im pretty sure it was an automatic.

i also cant see a fwd car walking away from a rwd both properly set up.

[mikes2nd]

I can find someone who will paint my car for 25k and another guy will do it for 3k... these "costs" are very subjective...

[badazz81z28]

I can find someone who will paint my car for 25k and another guy will do it for 3k... these "costs" are very subjective...

VERY SUBJECTIVE!!!

Seems like many people pay for labor, and that is not cheap hence the more $$$. I built my car for no more than $15K and that includes the car...Some people who want that "perfect" show car quality paint...yes it will cost a lot of money. But...we drive these cars...who wants a high dollar paint job?

I'm confident my "guesstimate" is accurate if you do the labor your self.