g body road course

[exwestracer]

ray,could be one of my problems what i told you the other day(write),when i said that i move the lower arms a little outside making a new holes in the frame?maybe i did wrong and that was one of my problems?could it be?
regards

I think it was a good idea and should not have caused the rear end to "try to pass you".

[Norm Peterson]

If you move the chassis side of the rear lower arms outward so that they are almost parallel in plan (top) view without also moving them to be downhill from axle to chassis, you'll get loose steer.

That's what I think I'm reading, anyway.


Norm

[exwestracer]

ray,could be one of my problems what i told you the other day(write),when i said that i move the lower arms a little outside making a new holes in the frame?maybe i did wrong and that was one of my problems?could it be?
regards

Jorge,
Just so we are clear on this, did you move the front suspension lower arms out , or the rear?

[malibu43]

i did move the front lower a arms outside,kind of 10mm from its original holes by the frame,the rear lower are paralell to the ground,i believe i got some problem with uppers? i don`y know in what possition they has to be,paralel to,little up from the rear end,or up from the frame side or viceversa,that got me a little confused.
in the rear lowers i did some bracket to relocated down from the axle side ,to be more parallel.

[malibu43]

could be the whole problem because i got a 12bolt rear end from a c10 truck? i mean its wider then the stock ones,and also am running with 265/50/15,and the rear end steering itself.? i don`t know
thanks

[exwestracer]

Can you post a couple of the same pictures you sent me of the rear end as it is now? That might help all of us understand better exactly what you've got now.

[malibu43]

here the pics,i did took out the rear sway bar already.

[exwestracer]

When you push down on the back of the car, does the suspension seem to move ok? Or is it very hard and only the tires bounce?

[malibu43]

i did the test before,and i took the shocks(unbolt) and then the suspension moves freely,i mean with no problem it all.i ve notice with the shock bolted the suspension was moving up and down with no problem.

[malibu43]

ray,i been reading about the gulstrand mod,but i need to know the template they use will be the same for g body? i mean it will work in my car?
i think its a great mod.
thanks

[exwestracer]

ray,i been reading about the gulstrand mod,but i need to know the template they use will be the same for g body? i mean it will work in my car?
i think its a great mod.
thanks

Jorge,
I'm not sure about a template for the G body... For what you are doing, I don't think you can go too far with it. Like I said, if you are going to cut the whole mount off anyway, don't re-drill it, just cut the bottom off to where the rear bushing just clears the top of the frame.

Use a scribe to mark where the sides of the mount are on the frame rail, so you can get the caster back where it was. I wouldn't try to move the mount front to rear, just in. Make sure you move both ends the same, and it should align ok.

[malibu43]

ray,can you upload some pics for what are you talking about,am litlle confused at this time jaja,thanks again.
regards

[exwestracer]

Mark the frame (orange arrows) with lines at the edges of the mounts BEFORE you cut them off. Then when you move the mounts (blue arrows) and weld them back on, those lines will help you line the mounts back up front to rear.

[malibu43]

got it ray,thanks a lot,its very clearly for me now.

[exwestracer]

Jorge,
I think I may have figured out why the rear is sliding out on you. Set the car on stands, take the rear springs out, put a jack under the center of the axle at ride height and try to move the ends of the axle up and down. If it is hard to twist, you may have too much down angle in the upper rear links.

[malibu43]

ray,the blue arrows are for the direction where i have to move the rear end? i mean up and down,,tomorrow at night i will be in my car doing the test so i let you know on thursday,and like always thank you very much.

[malibu43]

let me get it clear,i take the springs out,and then put a jack under the center of the rear end,but if i let to ride height the weels will be touch the ground,sorry but i dont understand.

[exwestracer]

You have to raise the whole car up, too (or take the tires off). Yes, you have the idea correct.

[malibu43]

Ray i will do the test on saturday,so i will post you the results on monday.
thanks again

[malibu43]

Ray i did the test and the rear end moves freely from up and down,but i notice that the rear maybe are not straight,i mean ,when i try to put back the springs one was hard to put in possition then the other,will be the problem that the ears are not in the possition that has to be?.
any help will be great