Nascar

[garys 68]

Stewart went from 40th to 1st while Edwards stayed in the top 3 most of the race.....Stewart deserves the win and then some....

[moreHP]

I am a casual nascar fan. I dont watch all the races and dont follow it super close but I was following the chase this year and it was pretty fun to watch. Tony drove amazing yesterday but what really made me smile was the sportsmanship Edwards had after the race. He wasnt bitter or upset and gave credit to Stewart.

[69cortezsilver]

im confused i guess...so everyone runs the the same engine? weird...

fixed it for ya. Tony was in a 'toyota' before that, what would you have said then?

in NASCAR it doesn't really matter what the stickers say, it's all about the driver.

[fishtail8]

Those two guys were on a whole different level then the rest of the field yesterday. Both of them could put the cars where ever they wanted and weren't afraid to do it. It was nice the rest of the field stayed out of the way, for the most part, to let the top two race it out. No one else had anything for them anyways, so you may as well just move over when they come rather than be the guy who wrecked one of the guys chasing the championship. No one wants to win a championship that way. Congrats to Smoke, and Carl's a classy guy. He'll be coming hard next year.

[twosaturns]

im confused i guess...so everyone runs the the same engine? weird...

no, just engines that have to fit within a narrow set of parameters.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...s-a-quick-look

[Chevrolaine]

im confused i guess...so everyone runs the the same engine? weird...

LOL Only according to the uninformed.

[moreHP]

im confused i guess...so everyone runs the the same engine? weird...

Well toyota didnt and still doesnt have a V8 pushrod engine so they had to copy something. Or put a toyota sticker on a chevy engine and call it good!

[twosaturns]

Well toyota didnt and still doesnt have a V8 pushrod engine so they had to copy something. Or put a toyota sticker on a chevy engine and call it good!

and Chevy doesn't have a RWD sedan and Toyota(lexus) does so what's the problem?
its no secret toyota designed a NASCAR-specific engine that fit within the rules. in response to that, chevy abandoned the SB2 when they realized they were out-gunned and developed the R07 (also built specifically for NASCAR and NOT based on the LS engine)
huh, Ford doesn't use a pushrod V8 anymore either...

NASCAR engines are basically spec engines, really only differing in the cylinder head design; there are more similarities (even identical by rules) than differences...
the truck series is the only NASCAR series even REMOTELY resembling what is in the dealers showrooms. NASCAR stopped being 'stock' car racing a long time ago.

[moreHP]

and Chevy doesn't have a RWD sedan and Toyota(lexus) does so what's the problem?
its no secret toyota designed a NASCAR-specific engine that fit within the rules. in response to that, chevy abandoned the SB2 when they realized they were out-gunned and developed the R07 (also built specifically for NASCAR and NOT based on the LS engine)
huh, Ford doesn't use a pushrod V8 anymore either...

NASCAR engines are basically spec engines, really only differing in the cylinder head design; there are more similarities (even identical by rules) than differences...
the truck series is the only NASCAR series even REMOTELY resembling what is in the dealers showrooms. NASCAR stopped being 'stock' car racing a long time ago.

No problem at all. I do find it funny that when you see a race you have to see what sticker is on it to know what kind of car it is. That part kind of bugs me but your right, there are hardly any rear wheel drive cars to choose from.

[garys 68]

Well, you can watch Nationwide....at least they're running identifyable front grills.

No problem at all. I do find it funny that when you see a race you have to see what sticker is on it to know what kind of car it is. That part kind of bugs me but your right, there are hardly any rear wheel drive cars to choose from.

[HarleyR]

It couldnt of been a better race..not only for the 14 car but for the sport as a whole... its races like these that might be able to put a pulse back into the sport. As far as the rest of the posts ive given up discussing those topics long ago...

[shortrack]

no, just engines that have to fit within a narrow set of parameters.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...s-a-quick-look

Cool article, very informative, didnt know they were all that close......too bad the author drops the ball at the end with his personal comments about how Nascar has moved away from its roots of what a Stock Car should be and teams should a run production based engine available on a current car so there would be mixed OHV and OHC engines blah, blah blah....what a joke!.....its not 1949 anymore, without the current attempt to equalize the cars, with the technology available to the teams today any small aero or engine advantage would translate into said manufacture running away AND HIDING from the competition, end of story!!!.....today with the spec body, spec chassis and "spec" engine Jimmie Johnson still won 5 Cups in a row.....imagine if some cars had OHV engines and some had DOHC engines???.....what planet is this guy from???

[shortrack]

As far as the rest of the posts ive given up discussing those topics long ago...

Im heading there brutha'......

[twosaturns]

its all in good fun that's all...

[shortrack]

Its interesting one of the biggest breakthroughs of the new Ford engine over the old one is its much improved cooling efficiency which allows them to run a smaller grille opening (more tape) and thus more downforce/faster lap times....more downforce has been a big contributer to Fords turnaround this year.....its not all about HP.....pretty neat stuff

[NJSPEEDER]

Well toyota didnt and still doesnt have a V8 pushrod engine so they had to copy something. Or put a toyota sticker on a chevy engine and call it good!

No different than anything else about these "stock" cars. There hasn't been a production based part in NASCAR in a few decades at this point. The rules are designed around making all the cars have the same aero, largely the same parts, and engines with similar power. If a team comes off the dyno (something they do a few times a year to each brand) with a noticable amount more power than the others NASCAR will make adjustments to re-equalize things. Most of the adjustments than can be made even have a defined range in them. Shock and spring rates, gears, ride heights, minimum and maximum weight splits for front to rear and side to side, spec tires.................lots of stuff very specifically spelled out.

[shmoov69]

On the topic of NASCAR......here's a interview of a douche!! Language warning!

http://youtu.be/NsaBQq5D4Zg

[trapin]

NASCAR stopped being 'stock' car racing a long time ago.

I know you guys are hammering on him in this thread, but on this point...he's right.

Car Of Tommorow ruined NASCAR for me. I'm all for cheering on drivers but for me Stock Car Racing has always been about Manufacturer vs. Manufacturer vs. Manufacturer. I want to cheer on the Bowtie just as much as I want to cheer for JJ or Tony Stewart. With today's cars that's almost impossible....they're all the same car, same engine, same everything.

I'm happy for Stewart but let's be honest here....he would have won that race regardless of which car he was driving; Ford, Chevy, Toyota.

That's why I don't watch anymore.

[John Wright]

Back to the points race in the last race at Homestead...it was a great race, and Tony sure did race his butt off to win the Championship, and I too tip my hat to Carl for bowing graciously and taking second with grace and poise. Great couple of guys who deserve the top two spots.

[shmoov69]

Couldn't have happened to a better guy!!!
Must be bad parenting or something!! LOL

http://mobile.sbnation.com/nascar/20...ng-nascar-2011