Goodguys

[rrunner68]

Seems to make sense to me, if the venue is packed, it stays 72 and older, if attendance is low, open it up. I enjoy all cars, but it does bother me a bit at the all year events when the local corvette club shows up with 20 cars and hogs up prime parking. I go to Goodguys events to see cars that have or had some sort of patina, and require a bit of adventurous spirit to drive not something that rolled off the show floor last week and is still under warranty. But I definately don't envy the job that guys like Ed and Trent have, trying to satisfy the masses.

[dontlifttoshift]

But I definately don't envy the job that guys like Ed and Trent have, trying to satisfy the masses.

It's gravy....the masses are satisfied. This thread has been open for about 10 days at this point. This being the 22nd post i went back and counted the posts from people that sounded like they wanted the years opened up. I was very generous and came up with (drumroll please).....11. Now with 6,345 active members currently posting at this forum those 11 make up .0017% of members on this forum that would like for Goodguys to open up to later model cars. I wouldn't alienate my core customer for less than 1%. It wouldn't bother me that less than 1% would like for this to happen but I don't think comments along the lines of "what's wrong with Goodguys" are really fair, there is nothing wrong with Goodguys, they are doing a pretty good job!

Has anyone started this thread on the goodguysforum.com yet?

[NJSPEEDER]

I have refused to go to car shows with year restrictions for a long time, ever since I was kicked out of a local show while driving my 91 Camaro RS(it was too new but the several year newer Corvette parked next to me somehow wasn't)

To me it just seems a sad sign when a bunch of people who claim to be into cars end up only being into theirs and their friends cars and no others. There is a lot of cool stuff out there and a lot of ideas. If all you do is look at the same style and era over and over again how are you ever going to learn about and of it?

-Tim

[Later-A-body]

The argument of the existing members will be upset by the changes really is a poor reasoning for keeping the current system in place. As with any car show or event, you have a total number of participants allowed, and it has always been on a first come first served basis. If you open the years up to all cars, you will still have all the participants you had previously, you will just need to get your entry in before the event is sold out. So lets be fair about this and not use poor excuses such as our later year cars only represent 1% of the market. I can only imagine what percent of the market the late model Mustang crowd represents alone, not to mention any other GM, Mopar, AMC, or others built after 1972. And if we are really being "honest" then why is Mary Pozzi allowed to attend with a 1973 Camaro. I imagine that because her car is identical to the previous 3 years prior, it makes it easier to allow, but if we are really being "honest" about this, the car does not fall within the rules. Now, I am not trying to disrespect her, she is a great driver and I know she has many followers that will come to her defense, which is well deserved. So with that said, I will now be the point man on taking all the crap people will throw at me.

[dontlifttoshift]

[QUOTE=Later-A-body;792002]

The argument of the existing members will be upset by the changes really is a poor reasoning for keeping the current system in place.

Tell me why.

As with any car show or event, you have a total number of participants allowed, and it has always been on a first come first served basis. If you open the years up to all cars, you will still have all the participants you had previously, you will just need to get your entry in before the event is sold out.

Valid point but I don't think space is the issue and I am not worried about not getting a spot....I'm number 29 for Joliet this year!

So lets be fair about this and not use poor excuses such as our later year cars only represent 1% of the market. I can only imagine what percent of the market the late model Mustang crowd represents alone, not to mention any other GM, Mopar, AMC, or others built after 1972.

To be fair I said nothing of market percentage. I merely presented that the number of people on this board with post '72 cars either don't attend goodguys shows or have an earlier year car that they take instead. It's not an excuse, it's an observation and was mostly in reply to the "what's wrong with Goodguys" comment. My post was NOT an attack on late model cars. I don't live under a rock, I know there are tons of late models out there.

And if we are really being "honest" then why is Mary Pozzi allowed to attend with a 1973 Camaro. I imagine that because her car is identical to the previous 3 years prior, it makes it easier to allow, but if we are really being "honest" about this, the car does not fall within the rules. Now, I am not trying to disrespect her, she is a great driver and I know she has many followers that will come to her defense, which is well deserved. So with that said, I will now be the point man on taking all the crap people will throw at me.[/

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Pretty sure her car is always parked in a vendors booth, as a display item it really doesn't matter what year it is. I don't think any one will give you any crap and please don't take any of this too seriously. Its sposed to be fun remember? Discussions like this are good for the hobby and industry.

[Later-A-body]

It does get a little old though when you have later model car and you are excluded from the majority of local and national car shows and events. It is not unfair to say that many people have a false notion that 1972 is some magic year cutoff. I have had many pre-'73 cars. They are all very cool rides, but in defense of later models such as mine....I have yet to find anyone tell me that my car is not worthy of the same attention the earlier cars are getting. I mean how many mid seventies cars do you see built in the Pro-touring theme? Not enough, but a few have been built, and they are just as cool as the the earlier stuff. Look at all the aftermarket support for '78-'87 G-Bodies. They are very cool cars, but they cant show up either. And while a 1969 Camaro is cool, how many of them do you need to populate the scene? If you've read Popular Hot Rodding lately you will see that they have a real love for the '73-'77 GM A-Body. So I think it is time to stop putting limits on this hobby we have chosen, and let everyone play in the sandbox with the rest of the cool kids.

[showa]

I was a member of Good Guys many years ago and have been pleasantly suprised by the later years they now allow...
Sounds like they have full fields at all the events and don't need to change yet.....
Or if they won't allow your year car (or a Japanese car like mine) then seek out others like you on the forums and put together some shows yourselves that cater to the years of cars you want... Approach those who have already done this and seek counsel...
Good Guys is a nice benchmark to shoot for but there is always room for improvement....
YOU may be the next great promoter who creates the niche needed for your interests.....

[Blitz]

I don't think I could've said it better myself showa. GG is something to shoot for. Too many times have I heard "we started this show about 3 years ago and it just grew and grew". I've been to about 4 GG shows now and my dogs are barking by the end of the day. I've even tried splitting it up into two days but the DFW show is HUGE! Look at the RTTH event and others like it. I just think there is a niche to be filled here if "we" want to have later model cars in shows. It doesn't HAVE to be GoodGuys...does it?

[Tony_SS]

Seems to make sense to me, if the venue is packed, it stays 72 and older, if attendance is low, open it up. I enjoy all cars, but it does bother me a bit at the all year events when the local corvette club shows up with 20 cars and hogs up prime parking. I go to Goodguys events to see cars that have or had some sort of patina, and require a bit of adventurous spirit to drive not something that rolled off the show floor last week and is still under warranty. But I definately don't envy the job that guys like Ed and Trent have, trying to satisfy the masses.

Ditto that... I hope GG keeps it 72 and older. I don't care if I can't park my disco junk there.. If I take the family to a show, I want to enjoy OLD cars, not a bunch of overgrown brats and their 90's "muscle". Sorry if that's a gross generalization, but I'm glad GG can piss these folks off. Most of them deserve it. lol.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Seems to make sense to me, if the venue is packed, it stays 72 and older, if attendance is low, open it up...

That's what our local yearly big car show (Cherries Jubilee) does...and I haven't attended for years.
With polished up big rigs entered,the last thing I'd want to do is park my classic next to one of those or a dolled-up PT Cruiser...ah,pass.

[Tony_SS]

That's what our local yearly big car show (Cherries Jubilee) does...and I haven't attended for years.
With polished up big rigs entered,the last thing I'd want to do is park my classic next to one of those or a dolled-up PT Cruiser...ah,pass.

The fanny pack of cars.

[sr73bu]

It does get a little old though when you have later model car and you are excluded from the majority of local and national car shows and events. It is not unfair to say that many people have a false notion that 1972 is some magic year cutoff. I have had many pre-'73 cars. They are all very cool rides, but in defense of later models such as mine....I have yet to find anyone tell me that my car is not worthy of the same attention the earlier cars are getting. I mean how many mid seventies cars do you see built in the Pro-touring theme? Not enough, but a few have been built, and they are just as cool as the the earlier stuff. Look at all the aftermarket support for '78-'87 G-Bodies. They are very cool cars, but they cant show up either. And while a 1969 Camaro is cool, how many of them do you need to populate the scene? If you've read Popular Hot Rodding lately you will see that they have a real love for the '73-'77 GM A-Body. So I think it is time to stop putting limits on this hobby we have chosen, and let everyone play in the sandbox with the rest of the cool kids.

I hear ya man.... I think the logical thing would be to open it up a few years at a time to "newer cars". Its 2011, not 1991. Car shows have had this 1972 cut-off for years now. I'm not suggesting they open it up to "all" muscle cars, but why not start by allowing 2 more production years as the cut-off every 3 years or so??? So open it to 74 and older in 2012... then in 2015 open it up to 76. There are some really cool and well built cars out there post 72 that I would love to see... why not show them off. It will only draw larger crowds and participants. Believe me, I understand drastic change is never good, but in this case, a slow addition to "newer" cars would only help build the hobby. Adding 2 production years every 3-5 years isn't a crazy concept.

-Sean

[79-TA]

It's gravy....the masses are satisfied. This thread has been open for about 10 days at this point. This being the 22nd post i went back and counted the posts from people that sounded like they wanted the years opened up. I was very generous and came up with (drumroll please).....11. Now with 6,345 active members currently posting at this forum those 11 make up .0017% of members on this forum that would like for Goodguys to open up to later model cars. I wouldn't alienate my core customer for less than 1%. It wouldn't bother me that less than 1% would like for this to happen but I don't think comments along the lines of "what's wrong with Goodguys" are really fair, there is nothing wrong with Goodguys, they are doing a pretty good job!

Has anyone started this thread on the goodguysforum.com yet?

That logic goes both ways. Now turn your statement around and point out that an even smaller number is going out of their way to defend the status quo. Go figure, a small percentage of members discuss any given thread . . .

[Tony_SS]

That logic goes both ways. Now turn your statement around and point out that an even smaller number is going out of their way to defend the status quo. Go figure, a small percentage of members discuss any given thread . . .

Touché

[dontlifttoshift]

That logic goes both ways. Now turn your statement around and point out that an even smaller number is going out of their way to defend the status quo. Go figure, a small percentage of members discuss any given thread . . .

Your right!

[QUOTE=dontlifttoshift;789661]It really doesn't matter to me....I think 55 is late model.

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So the math tells us that nobody cares!

[coolwelder62]

Everybody keeps saying goodguys have enough cars the way it is.But if they opened it up to later years then put a limit on the number of cars some of the street rod cry babies would cry because the 5.0 mustang guys,78 & up A &G body groups would get there cars signed up first.Somebody is always going to be left out.I think goodguys should make like 1960-1990 and anything older than 1959 should just go home.

[rrunner68]

Everybody keeps saying goodguys have enough cars the way it is.But if they opened it up to later years then put a limit on the number of cars some of the street rod cry babies would cry because the 5.0 mustang guys,78 & up A &G body groups would get there cars signed up first.Somebody is always going to be left out.I think goodguys should make like 1960-1990 and anything older than 1959 should just go home.

You do realize that that is over half of the cars in attendance at most Good Guys shows right?

[Tony_SS]

Everybody keeps saying goodguys have enough cars the way it is.But if they opened it up to later years then put a limit on the number of cars some of the street rod cry babies would cry because the 5.0 mustang guys,78 & up A &G body groups would get there cars signed up first.Somebody is always going to be left out.I think goodguys should make like 1960-1990 and anything older than 1959 should just go home.

I can see that going well.. lol

[olds87]

I know the GG show here in Arizona is always packed and never see a g-body car at show. Would love if they can open the years up to like late 80's.

[Tony_SS]

I know the GG show here in Arizona is always packed and never see a g-body car at show. Would love if they can open the years up to like late 80's.

They could run a GG show for 72-88 and I bet they'd see just as much volume.