1 question before I call Marcus

[ssick chevelle]

so ive done pretty much all the homework i can, all the forums possible and still not found this simple answer....
Am i able to upgrade from stock disk to c5 disk set up on a 1970 chevelle?. this is the final and only question i cant get a clear reply about. after this i promise im calling sc&c..i promise.

The chevelle is a daily driver and will se NO track time at all. just racing fast through seattle streets and highways
i know that the afx is a great product however im afraid it will be overkill and of course like all im on a budgert. i plan on running 20 inchers (i know , i know) had finger on trigger for the tvs package from hotchkis just rather sped my money on this part first as well as i just received my steering upgrade kit from hotchkis and am ready to proceed finally/ please chime in all info is valuable to me

[MrQuick]

sure you can, its just a short spindle.....same as the f body just with the steering arm on the opposite side....

[ssick chevelle]

thnk you for your post. so which companies make this short spindle? are we talking about a short spindle because i was reading that those arent very good either. ive hear alot about a tall spindle. whats this?

[zx10intn]

a tall spindle simply helps correct some of the gemoetry issues commonly associated with a-bodies

[6spdcamaro]

thnk you for your post. so which companies make this short spindle? are we talking about a short spindle because i was reading that those arent very good either. ive hear alot about a tall spindle. whats this?

The "short spindle" is just the name for a stock style chevelle/camaro/nova spindle. "Short spindles" (stock) can work well as long as you do something to effectively increase the height, like tall upper ball joints.

Here is the C5 brake kit for the gm short spindle.
http://www.kore3.com/proddetail.php?prod=10103-01

[Randy67]

I put C5 brakes from Kore on my 67 El Camino along with a Stage 2 kit from SC&C. I highly recommend both, you will not be disappointed.

[ssick chevelle]

wow thanks alot fellas. i was leaning towards the tall ball joints. im nsure every company will say they are the besr mqnufacturer for a tall spindle. but coming from the actual users which is best for a daily driver for wheels that will be 20" also does anyone know the factual advantages of the tall spindle?

[MrQuick]

not required on a bodies.... I'd stick with the stock spindles and maybe tall upper ball joints. Call Marcus, he's give you the run down.

get comfy before you call him, grab a note pad and several pens.

[6spdcamaro]

wow thanks alot fellas. i was leaning towards the tall ball joints. im nsure every company will say they are the besr mqnufacturer for a tall spindle. but coming from the actual users which is best for a daily driver for wheels that will be 20" also does anyone know the factual advantages of the tall spindle?

When you put a tall spindle or tall upper ball joints, it puts the upper control arm at a steeper angle (down inward). This creates an increased camber gain, meaning that the upper control arm pulls the top of the spindle inward as the suspension compresses. Increased camber gain is one of the things that needs to be fixed with the early suspensions.

[ssick chevelle]

thanks ken that actually makes sense when you break it down like that. Randy what specifiacally are u running on the elky. pen check pad check credit card check! thnks all. uve helped more than u know.

[68nogoat]

I am in the same boat as you. After about 3 months of research, I finally made the call to Marc today and he really is as helpful as everyone says he is. I called from work, and he spent about 2 1/2 hours on the phone with me. Gave me a full rundown of the things I need to do and the things that need to be done. He is simply not like these other companies just trying to sell something. He is more interested in educating you about what works and why then he is on just selling you something you don't need.

I wound up going with the AFX spindles, because the way I looked at it, I can save money on brakes, and get the whole front suspension done, top of the line, and not have to pull it apart to upgrade anything in the future. Its a lot of dough, but it really is the best thing out there if you can swing it. For me it came at the expense of probably waiting to do the rear.

Good luck with your project.

[ssick chevelle]

I wound up going with the AFX spindles, because the way I looked at it, I can save money on brakes, and get the whole front suspension done, top of the line, and not have to pull it apart to upgrade anything in the future. Its a lot of dough, but it really is the best thing out there if you can swing it. For me it came at the expense of probably waiting to do the rear.



is your xcar gonna be a full p/t or daily driving orrr? wouldnt this have alot to do with your decision or is it a bottom line track or street thing with the afx spindle

[MrQuick]

is your xcar gonna be a full p/t or daily driving orrr? wouldnt this have alot to do with your decision or is it a bottom line track or street thing with the afx spindle

For your application I would steer away from the AFX set up. Although it is a nice set up it really doesn't help the A body suspension as much as it does the F/X body.
Also running 20's you are going to want bearings you can service both easily and cheaply.
Put the money you save into quality shocks and sway bars.
Vince

[L & H Kustoms]

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[ssick chevelle]

L&H those are truly beautiful spndles. i will be contactin you soon. is this the what majority of the alternatives are using instead of the afx? please exscuse my ignorance of the subject i am just trying to sponge info

[L & H Kustoms]

L&H those are truly beautiful spndles. i will be contactin you soon. is this the what majority of the alternatives are using instead of the afx? please exscuse my ignorance of the subject i am just trying to sponge info

Thanks just give me a call whenever works. Our Pro Billet™ Spindles and the AFX spindles are the top 2 choices for people wanting to update their geometry and suspension. Our Pro Billet spindles work best for the guys who want or need to be able to check and service their bearings vs. the sealed bearing on the afx spindle.

[Randy67]

Randy what specifiacally are u running on the elky.

It had the C5 brakes and Stage 2 setup with circle track springs with hidden adjusters (1000 lbs springs), Pro-Shocks stock mount shocks (front and rear) and 15/16" front bar. Rear was a 3-link with panhard bar, 350 lb springs (a bit heavy but okay as I didn't have a rear sway bar), and LS1 rear brakes. I sometimes wish I still had the car, it was fun.

[ArtosDracon]

For just the brake kit, I'm pretty sure Fly-n-Bye also has both kits and parts available.

[TitoJones]

For your application I would steer away from the AFX set up. Although it is a nice set up it really doesn't help the A body suspension as much as it does the F/X body.

Huh? What gives you that impression?

Tyler

[MrQuick]

Huh? What gives you that impression?

Tyler

A conversation we had a few years ago....I can try to find the thread.

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Vince