4Link from Heidts

[oddien]

Hi

Anyone have experience with 4Link from Heidts?
What is the difference of theese two?
http://www.heidts.com/6769_camaro_re...uspension.html
http://www.heidts.com/heidts_superid...e_package.html
Will there be a problem to get the exhaust all the way back?



Or will it be easier and better with the original 4Link?

Its for a 68 Camaro.

Thanks

[ProdigyCustoms]

Those are independant rears not four links. Personally, I would rather have a 4 link.

[oddien]

Thanks for answer Frank.

U have any recommendation for 4Link, or is Heidts good?

Thinking of a new complete subframe as well, but I dont know if it is worth all the work compare to just buy coilover and new breaks+rack&pinion..

[ProdigyCustoms]

We sell and install multiple 4 link, 3 link and torque arm solutions. We sell only what we install.

We have

Art Morrison
Chris Alston
DSE
Prodigy Bar
Ride Tech
Speedtech

Everyone of these are good suspensions and A tremenous amount of the decision is bassed on

(1) your needs, what you plan to do with the car

(2) Your fabrication skills

[oddien]

Ok, I was thinking of the Ride tech air pro system earlier but I am afraid that the car will be to low.. 2-4" lower they say.

The plan with the car:
Change engine from sb327 to bb475 620hp/618torque.
Good suspension, front & back(everything on the car now is original)
Brakes
4L80E Transmission
Rack&pinion
Complete Exhaust

I will use the car for cruising/StreetLegal

[ProdigyCustoms]

So is this a real solid car? Good solid frame rails? How much welding and cutting can you do

[cmraman]

Hi

Anyone have experience with 4Link from Heidts?
What is the difference of theese two?
http://www.heidts.com/6769_camaro_re...uspension.html
http://www.heidts.com/heidts_superid...e_package.html
Will there be a problem to get the exhaust all the way back?

Or will it be easier and better with the original 4Link?

Its for a 68 Camaro.



Thanks

Randy Johnson is the owner of the D&Z Customs Camaro that was used to help develop the suspension. He is a member here and could answer any questions you have regarding the new IRS. He has been working with Heidts to develop it. I can tell you from first hand, the car works really well. Seems very predictable and has a great ride. Again, Randy would be your best source.

[RJ66]

Hi Oddien, I believe that the Heidts 4-link will do everything you want it to do. It has been tested on street, auto-x, & track.It is a complete bolt in system that you can use either stock wheel wells or can use mini tubes for larger tires.

Let me know if there's anything else I can answer for you.
Thanks

[oddien]

Frank
The car is good, imported from Arizona in 2008.
I only found some rust on the front fender(so far) The frame rails are good and solid.
I can manage welding and cutting.

Hi Randy
I sent a mail to Heidts but no answer yet, do you know if there are any options on the rear axle? Like 9" or a good 12bolt that can handle my engine?
Mini tube, how do you install them?

[RJ66]

Hi Randy
I sent a mail to Heidts but no answer yet, do you know if there are any options on the rear axle? Like 9" or a good 12bolt that can handle my engine?
Mini tube, how do you install them?[/QUOTE]

Heidts does offer a 9"axle (with regular ends or with floating hubs) already set up with the brackets on it ready to paint or powder coat. The mini tubs are installed by removing your old inner wheel wells & cutting the area inboard to accommodate the placement of the larger inner wheel well, then you weld into place.

Thanks

[ProdigyCustoms]

I asked about your rear frame rails because if the rear frame rails were soft the answer would be a no brainer as the AME completely replaces the rear rails (which BTW is easier then it sounds). but most people do not want to replace their rear rails if they do not have to. The Quadra link is a bit more work then the others on my list. A little more intrusive into the cabin, there is a shock crossmember that has to be installed from side to side, but a great handling suspension for sure.

If you want a easy install, your choice for a easy install with minimal cutting and welding will be the Chris Alston G link (4 link), ProdiGy Bar (4 link), Ride tech Air Bar (4 link with Shockwaves), or SpeedTech (torque arm)

BTW, you mention the air ride was a consideration but you was worried it will ride to low? The 2 to 4 inch drop is your choice. You could make it ride (as well as all the suspension we offer) at stock height if you desired by simply changing where you position the shocks on the mounts. So NONE of these suspension HAVE to run that low by any means. And the air ride is adjustable at the touch of a switch for ride height and spring changes. So do not dismiss the Ride Tech on the low ride height.

All these suspensions have proven to be very good G Machine handling. I would struggle to choose "a best". Of the 4 easier to install kits the G link has the most adjust ability and is the most universal for straight line hooking and handling. I am a drag racer to and like a car that really hooks hard when i want it to and find a lot of my customers want a dual purpose suspension also, so the G Link is our most popular seller.

All the kits are priced in the low $2000 range, so price is not a deciding factor. Really is more of a what you want it to do decision and how much work your willing to do to get there.

Also, We can supply ready to go bolt in rears for all the suspension packages we offer, but do not offer the Heidts.

Feel free to email me and I can provide links to installs we have done of the various suspension and discuss in more detail any of them that peak your interest.

[oddien]

If I will install minitube, will that conflict with the backseats?

How wide tires can I get with the different types of 4Link? Thinking of slicks for Street Legal.
I know Heidts have a wide tire Link, but how will it work with "normal" sized tire 275 wide?

Oddien

[ProdigyCustoms]

You only have to slighty trim the lower corner of the back seat.

On all the systems we sell you can go up to 335 on 67 / 68 and 345 on 69.

I have a bunch of info coming your way in response to your email questions

[oddien]

Thanks Frank

[wblanton]

I am sure all the products are great. I have been very happy with the Prodigy Bar on my car. I was surprised how much difference the adjustability in the coilovers could make. Still playing with it to find the best setup for different apps.

[oddien]

Hi wblanton

The prodigybar looks good, what options did you choose?

Do u have any pictures of it? innstalled on ur car.

Oddien

[ProdigyCustoms]

Here are a couple Prodigy Bars we installed.

The first 2 pics below are WBlantons Prodigy bar using coil overs





The next 2 pics are the Prodigy Bar on MotiV8r with Shockwaves and sway bar option

[oddien]

Thanks for pics Frank

I see they had to cut off some of the fueltank to fit the exhaust, but it looks great.
Do u still have this on the MotiV8r? Nice looking car by the way
What size are the exhaust 2,5"-3"?

Why are there such a big difference between Prodigy bar and DSE in price?

[ProdigyCustoms]

You will have to notch the corners of the tank with any 4 link to clear the coil overs. Yes, motiV8r still has all the suspension as originally built.

Those tailpipes are 2 1/2" and we have pre made ones like on MotiV8r available for the Prodigy Bar.

The Prodigy Bar and Quadra Link are within a few hundred dollars of one another in cost. The prodigy bar is a much easier install. The entire install is done under the car with no removal of any interior or trunk. No cutting.

[richiedd]

Frank
just saw this thread and it peaked my interest. Do you make a Prodigy Bar for the 2nd Gens? If so whats involved in installing and what are the benefits? Does this make sense for the street? What's the ballpark cost on the complete unit?

I have '70 and '77 F/Birds with 12 and 10 bolts and coil overs at the rear. The 70 also has rear discs. Apart from improved handling and hopefully ride quality, I would love to go wider on the tyres without mini tubbing. The 70 has 12.5" section width clearance currently and I would like to fit 325/335's if possible. The 77 has rolled lips and flattened seat belt bulge but I am not sure yet the maximum size that will fit (wish to hazard a guess?)