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    1. #81
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      THE OWNER OF THE OTHER 69 CAMARO, WITH THE BAD GAPSI didn't want to defend my car but I feel I need to. First, I built this car in my garage by myself on nights and weekends with the sole intention of selling it. When I arrived at G.G. and parked in the upper lot a G.G. rep told me to bring the car down to the SMOY lot. I knew I couldn't compete and didn't want to compete with these cars but knew it would be good exposure to help sell it. I didn't know that anyone would have the time to take measurements, write them down and then go home and post them on the forum. I know I have some gaps that I need address. In the final assembly I could not duplicate from the first mock up. As far as the other cars go in my opinion there were some amazing builds there. Good luck with your car gaps AJ.
      S.C.
      Scott C

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      How about CamaroAJ posting some photo's of his door gaps. And some shop techniques and photo's so we can see how he get's them.I would like to see how a professional does it.

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      Defend yourself?

      Quote Originally Posted by blacklab View Post
      THE OWNER OF THE OTHER 69 CAMARO, WITH THE BAD GAPSI didn't want to defend my car but I feel I need to. First, I built this car in my garage by myself on nights and weekends with the sole intention of selling it. When I arrived at G.G. and parked in the upper lot a G.G. rep told me to bring the car down to the SMOY lot. I knew I couldn't compete and didn't want to compete with these cars but knew it would be good exposure to help sell it. I didn't know that anyone would have the time to take measurements, write them down and then go home and post them on the forum. I know I have some gaps that I need address. In the final assembly I could not duplicate from the first mock up. As far as the other cars go in my opinion there were some amazing builds there. Good luck with your car gaps AJ.
      S.C.
      Scott, I mentioned it before and will again that defending yourself against this onslaught of criticism is crazy. You should not have to. We all know the truth. Lets hope you never see my grille at high speed again. Made loud to be played loud.Maybe we will have a whole new set of track specs for fender gaps next year. Michael

    4. #84
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      What onslaught? It's like one guy! lol

      Mike, your car looks bad ass. I need to see it one day!
      Scott from NJ.

      Vent Windows Forever! ...

      Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold
      I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors

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      And pretty cool that your "home built" car was selected to be a final part of SMOY ... gaps and all. Hell, if your car has gaps then mine must have canyons. You did good and congratulations!!

      Cheers,
      Mary Pozzi
      mpozzi . . . '73 Camaro RS, '69 Camaro SCCA/Trans-Am vintage racer, and a 1989 R7U 1LE Players Challenge car.

      "STICK, you B*TCH!!!!!!"

      "It's not a horse. You can't train it!! "


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      Quote Originally Posted by Bigblue73 View Post
      Thanks for the pictures! Are there any available that show the engines, interiors, rear shots of the cars.

      here ya go

      http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/...010GGColumbus/
      marty-mj
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      Thanks for the pic's - Your truck looks great!
      Tony Edler
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      '73 Dodge Challenger

    8. #88
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      Nice pics of Michael's car Martay







      The color combo on the wheels.
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      Since the trunk was open i was going to open it all the way and see how they finished it off.

      Quote Originally Posted by compos mentis View Post
      Nice pics of Michael's car Martay







      The color combo on the wheels.
      marty-mj
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    10. #90
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      Sorry for the temporary loss of sanity

      Quote Originally Posted by BonzoHansen View Post
      What onslaught? It's like one guy! lol

      Mike, your car looks bad ass. I need to see it one day!
      Please accept my apology. I did get carried away with the onslaught statement. It was on other forums and I was getting tired of the bashing of Scott's car, my car, DSE, etc. One guy can seem to gather momentum. Fortunately sanity prevailed and the people who really saw the car stepped up to set it right. The door is open for you. NJ boys welcome. Call me and make sure I am in town and we will take it out. I wish Scott was here also to take both cars out. Michael

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      Silver car built by Rob Ida

      Quote Originally Posted by wmhjr View Post















      This one wasn't a SMOY candidate, but the engineering was way cool. Check out the brake system on the rear wheel - everything fabbed in house...



      The silver car was built by Rob Ida (Ida Automotive) here in NJ. His work is off the chart. Anyone remember his Tucker??

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      Very cool...



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      What a great photo.

      Quote Originally Posted by compos mentis View Post
      Very cool...


      Skip, Thanks brother. I can always count on you. You got to drive it!! Michael

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      Quote Originally Posted by gz06cam View Post

      You got to drive it!! Michael
      Like I'm gonna wanna build a '55 Shivee after I drive that thingl






      lol
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    15. #95
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      Hey Michael,it was great to see you again and your car.We did not get much time to talk,next time around.I look forward to meeting on the track again someday.But i dont want to be looking at your grille.Thanks for all your support.Congrads on a bad ass car and to DSE for there support and great products.I will have to make a trip to NJ some day and take me for a ride .
      Scott C

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      Quote Originally Posted by gz06cam View Post
      The silver car was built by Rob Ida (Ida Automotive) here in NJ. His work is off the chart. Anyone remember his Tucker??
      Michael, I remember that Tucker. Like all his work...wow!

      http://www.robidaconcepts.com/lower48.html
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    17. #97
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      Let's put this to bed!!

      Thanks to all the people that addressed and clarified the issue of “gaps” concerning the Camaros present at the SMOY event. For those who I spoke with at GG and who had seen the car, you know the quality of the craftsmanship in the car. However, I am still a big boy who can accept criticism without becoming irrational.

      Each of the cars in the final 5 is an expression and an artistic art form. Mine was one of minimalistic function different from any others in the room. I have the utmost respect for every builder in that room and many who probably should have made it. We have all been in this business far too long to criticize each other. As a builder of automotive electrical systems, there is no room for “gaps”. You don’t move unless I am right on. All my work gets hidden. However, as far as executing the concept, I am far less talented in this area than those who can critique the finished product. Hence I put my faith in DSE to complete the concept that I wanted. For me, they succeeded. Suffice it to say that I was honored to be amongst the final 5.

      Defining the criteria for judging is a difficult task both for the GG staff and the builders. I too am not interested in a stack of awards and was certainly not selected because I display a vendor both at Goodguys events. I left the restoration network years ago to avoid the criticism of the color of the grade 8 bolts on my hood hinge or the angle of the ink stamps on the heater control box. (I always liked the left handed line workers).

      The bar has been raised. In our world trailer queens are parked. Many of you know me and acknowledged the fact that my car was on the track at Gingerman after an initial 3 hours of wheel time. The ride back from Warren Dune State park alone qualified as its own autocross. It was built to perform and did just that. Is this the criteria or is it a Pro Street look with a minimum 12 second pass. Perhaps the weight of chrome on the car or the yards of carbon fiber are the test. Maybe we need to redefine the pack and subdivide the classes. Maybe it is just not that important.

      The bottom line is that we are all big boys able to accept the criticism and revel in the accolades. The judges are human. I did not win the big prize. Kudos to Roger Burman and all the best to Karen Leisinger. Put your foot into that car and run it. What a rush.

      Sorry for the canned response.

    18. #98
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      Quote Originally Posted by gz06cam View Post
      The silver car was built by Rob Ida (Ida Automotive) here in NJ. His work is off the chart. Anyone remember his Tucker??
      The Ida guys were staying in the same hotel I was. While from a purely engineering perspective, I'm not crazy about the rear brake setup, I admit to have been blown away by the fabrication and work they did. You had to really look at the car and you saw all kinds of details that were top notch. I wish I had 1/10 the skill. And maybe 1/10 of the money!
      '66 GTO Vert Project "Red Ink", 462ci of stroked pontiac power, TKO600, SC&C Stg II+, Tubular lowers, Currectrac Rear suspension, Moser 12bolt w/Truetrack, Wilwood Master and discs all around, too much fun for words...

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      Quote Originally Posted by wmhjr View Post
      The Ida guys were staying in the same hotel I was. While from a purely engineering perspective, I'm not crazy about the rear brake setup, I admit to have been blown away by the fabrication and work they did. You had to really look at the car and you saw all kinds of details that were top notch. I wish I had 1/10 the skill. And maybe 1/10 of the money!
      The front brakes were done the same way from what I saw and should work fine just make taking the wheels on and off much harder.

      pic of front wheel,brake
      Jake P

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    20. #100
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      Blacklab

      100%, top notch, outstanding car! It must have been a dream come true to be invited to the smoy area. You should have recieved extra points for doing it yourself in your garage. I assume you didnt mean to, but Im sure you have inspired alot of folks. I know it inspired me.

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