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    1. #1
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      Need help picking first Project Car.

      I am looking into starting a project car for me and my son to work on when he is back from school. Neither one of us has tackled a full teardown and rebuild of a car, but think it would be fun. This car would be for weekend rides or maybe a summer car but would never race or show. We both love the older pony cars but it seams the total cost would be as much as a new Camano. I would like to rebuild a sporty looking car for under $10,000. Since this would be a learning project I don’t want something too exotic or a car that would be hard to get parts for. Any help in what to look at or things to keep in mind? I also would like a recommendation on a good book about restoring cars or trucks.

      Thanks
      Dad

    2. #2
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      if your heart isnt set on any particular car or brand, a great entry level relatively cheap car would be a fox body mustang imo. I know it isnt a classic but it has an aftermarket parts selection like no other and a wealth of information on line can be found . They are easy to set up for entry level drag racing, road racing , auto crossing etc and the resale value holds up as well ..... that is my 2 cents. good luck!!

    3. #3
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      Quote Originally Posted by mez6266 View Post
      I am looking into starting a project car for me and my son to work on when he is back from school. Neither one of us has tackled a full teardown and rebuild of a car, but think it would be fun. This car would be for weekend rides or maybe a summer car but would never race or show. We both love the older pony cars but it seams the total cost would be as much as a new Camano. I would like to rebuild a sporty looking car for under $10,000. Since this would be a learning project I don’t want something too exotic or a car that would be hard to get parts for. Any help in what to look at or things to keep in mind? I also would like a recommendation on a good book about restoring cars or trucks.

      Thanks
      Dad
      It's not impossible to build a nice project car for under 10 grand, but it won't have all the latest fancy parts, and you'll need to do almost all the work yourself (labor is $$$$$). 2nd / 3rd gen camaros and firebirds are still pretty affordable, and both can make a great base for a project car. Once you pick a car, take your time shopping for one and get the cleanest car you can afford given your project budget, since body and interior work are some of the more expensive things you may need to source out. Probably most important regardless of what car you choose, have a good plan laid out, goals for the car, parts you want to use, and get it all on paper before you buy a single part. While stuff is almost certain to change, it's good to see it all in once place so you don't end up with a mish mash of stuff that doesn't work well together.


      -- Dan

    4. #4
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      Thank for the fast reply.
      What year do I look at for a fox body mustang?

    5. #5
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      I see 70's Trans AM selling for $5k. As for Mustangs. Any tear between 87-93. Roller cams and headders are stock. Find someones project that is unfinished. You'll pay $.50 on the dollar.
      Everything Under the Sun is Intune
      Chris
      http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea..._am/index.html

    6. #6
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      Quote Originally Posted by mez6266 View Post
      Thank for the fast reply.
      What year do I look at for a fox body mustang?
      87-93 are the bread and butter years. They started in '79 though and '79-'86 also accept all the same parts. You can also find '94 up mustangs cheap if you like a little newer body style and they use most of the same parts and have a huge aftermarket following as well.

      Are you partial to a particular brand or make? This might help your cause. There are an awful lot of choices out there.

    7. #7
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      An early fox body Mustang would be cool, the one's that a lot of people call bug-eyes. They have great aftermarket support and a late 70's/early 80's model would be cool and unique. I have been watching for the right second gen TA/Firebird to wrench on. I will pounce on the right one when I see it. The hunt is part of the fun, and the second gen aftermarket is improving while I am waiting/watching.
      Stephen

    8. #8
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      I've never heard of anyone ever call the early ones "bugeyes", only 4 eyed mustangs.

    9. #9
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      Dad, please stay away from Buick and Mopars. Do you wallet a favor and stick with Chevy's and Fords.

      Early Chevelles are great choice, full frame, a lot of aftermarket parts available, large engine options and they are worth a little when done. Sporty looking, not so much.

      There were a few rust free projects on ebay and craigslist recently for under 5k. A project car provides a better base, they are usually blasted, rust has been uncovered already, parts are usually disassembled and labled. Plus you might get some new parts included. Make sure the glass is there.

      If you buy an assembled car you never know what you get till you start ripping stuff out and stripping paint. The scary time is when you remove the carpet, fenders and windshields. Although tearing apart the car is so much more fun that assembling them. Then the project would depend on initial purchase price.

      Good luck

      Vince
      MrQuick ΜΟΛ'ΩΝ ΛΑΒ'Ε


    10. #10
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      A C4 Corvette could be a great project. They are pretty common, parts are still out there, and when it's done; you'll have a very fast toy.
      Earlier muscle cars are getting too expensive to start with.

      Look at an '89-96 with a 6-speed
      1971 Camaro, 383 stroker ~500HP,M21 Trans with lightened flywheel. All Sorts of Auto-x Goodness in the Suspension. 12" Brakes ->SOLD

      But ask me about my 2004 STi Auto-x car...

      Just call me Brett

    11. #11
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lowend View Post
      A C4 Corvette could be a great project. They are pretty common, parts are still out there, and when it's done; you'll have a very fast toy.
      Earlier muscle cars are getting too expensive to start with.

      Look at an '89-96 with a 6-speed
      Good choice... I've been looking at 'em myself since I saw a beat down '92 sell for $2100. It wasn't pretty and it needed a ton of work, but it did run and drive. That's a lot of car for $2100!



    12. #12
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      Quote Originally Posted by DarkBuddha View Post
      Good choice... I've been looking at 'em myself since I saw a beat down '92 sell for $2100. It wasn't pretty and it needed a ton of work, but it did run and drive. That's a lot of car for $2100!
      And it's already got "Corvette" suspension.

    13. #13
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      68-72 Novas are all over the web and penny saver type papers

    14. #14
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      Quote Originally Posted by BrianJ View Post
      I've never heard of anyone ever call the early ones "bugeyes", only 4 eyed mustangs.
      You are right, 4 eyes. I was thinking of the "bug eyed" Sprite
      Stephen

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      You aint lookin hard enough,,,,,,
      http://bham.craigslist.org/search/?a...breviation=sss
      LOTS of great stuff local to you!
      1968 F100 sb full vic chassis swap
      1965 Mustang coupe 347 5 spd cheap touring SOLD
      2003 Porsche 996 Outlaw LS2 swap SOLD
      1992 Lexus SC400 daily SOLD
      1966 Porsche 912 Outlaw SOLD
      1968 Ford F-100 sb SOLD

    16. #16
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      second gens can be had fairly cheap i sold a nice clean 74 roller for 1200...and a 72 roller for 2700...they are out there..hit the paper ..craigslist and take a drive out and about..
      Darrin Stalnecker
      1969 Camaro Convert full pt pr
      2007 Corvette Supercharged
      1968 Camaro LS1 T56
      http://www.fquick.com/dropit69

    17. #17
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      Oh oh
      My buddy is still trying to sell his supercharged 5.0
      It's a complete monster, but has been sitting basically for 10 years.
      Everything should probably be gone through, but the car is all there.
      $4500
      1971 Camaro, 383 stroker ~500HP,M21 Trans with lightened flywheel. All Sorts of Auto-x Goodness in the Suspension. 12" Brakes ->SOLD

      But ask me about my 2004 STi Auto-x car...

      Just call me Brett

    18. #18
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      Quote Originally Posted by mez6266 View Post
      Thank for the fast reply.
      What year do I look at for a fox body mustang?
      joe mac hit it on the head ....79-93 are pretty interchangeable
      *79-85- still carburated but are getting harder to find clean and the ones that are, are usually pricier more collector oriented 85 being the most potent

      *86 -same body as the 85 first year of efi (speed density) which is not as accepting to heavy engine modifacations ie big cam, intake etc

      *87-93 -all efi aero nose (most popular) 87-88 still speed density but great out of box performance. 89-93 mass air cars anything goes for the most part

      as stated 79-93 pretty much everything is interchangeable.....that is a REAL quick rundown .. have FUN!!!

    19. #19
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      My personal preference on the fox body mustangs is the 1986 body, dunno but I think that front end switch from the mesh grille to slotted opening looked great. I am biased though, I had a 86 white GT wit hthe flat black GT hood stripe and black side moulding. Tinted the windows and put some black centered wheels on it and it looked way cool back in the day.

      oops... sorry I started day dreaming there.

      I would look for a early to mid 80's model that has a solid body and bad engine or interior. You can then drop in your own motor and piece into it a nice interior.

      These things are what keep the local thrifty nickel in publication I think!

    20. #20
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      El camino's have always be a bit less expensive and fun to drive. Pleanty of parts. Hell I gave 2 way last year(69 and a 72)
      ---------Fabian Sanchez-----------
      71 velle Project Syckness ATS,Rushforth wheels,PRRC, Autometer,UMI, Hotchkis,QA1,hood-latches.com, comp cams,


      https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=43881

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