328i vs camaro

[76z28]

So my friend has a 328i he thinks he will beat me in a drag
mind you he is stock and i am well... modified
stock for stock he would be me of course.
but i cant convince him that it wont touch me in a strait line


oh and strait line
he makes 230 horse and i make 400-420(some where in there)

any thoughts?

[Vegas69]

Ya, deja vu. Haven't you posted this before? Take them to your local autocross or road course and settle it.......

[76z28]

i already did a strait line well with my chevy truck(with a 5.3 and 6000 lbs) he barely pulled on me by like 2.5 cars at that

i finally drove it and well, it gave me a whole new light that bmw's are well overrated mainly their base models anyway
it felt like my moms camery

plus he already tried it in his integra... i won by like 10 cars for strait line
it make around 160 horse too
but weights like 2700 vs the bmw's 3500ish

[Eric Howell]

2.5 cars is a lot.
Why do you want it to "let loose" around the track? The whole point is to stick unless you are drifting and that's a different story.
HP doesn't mean squat. What's the torque curves like? Bet that BMW with it's straight 6 has a better curve.
Not trying to talk trash. As far as PT goes I want to out handle a C6 and ride like a BMW.


Oh, luxury sports can cars give you a sense of a slower speed. Hence the luxury part.

[76z28]

because if you have a little under steer you can whip the tail end back around
also my torque curve comes on pretty flat from 3500-6k
and around the track we live near with some straits horse will help



it didnt feel slow it just didnt feel good turning

and yes 2.5 is alot but considering that is more of a sports car than a heavy old truck not really...

[Mkelcy]

I lost 10 IQ points reading this thread. Track them or not, but typing will never settle it.

[76z28]

oh i know
i think they are even though
cause around the streets he barely keeps up with me out of the turn around type off ramps and stuff like that

[PhillipM]

i lost 10 iq points reading this thread. Track them or not, but typing will never settle it.

x2.

[alowerlevel]

[78 Type-LT]

i already did a strait line well with my chevy truck(with a 5.3 and 6000 lbs) he barely pulled on me by like 2.5 cars at that

i finally drove it and well, it gave me a whole new light that bmw's are well overrated mainly their base models anyway
it felt like my moms camery

plus he already tried it in his integra... i won by like 10 cars for strait line
it make around 160 horse too
but weights like 2700 vs the bmw's 3500ish

I thought you said you had a Tundra

[cheapthrillz]

[formula]

Sh*t!

Go the f*ck away!

Go away.

[6'9"Witha69]

[John Wright]

I thought you said you had a Tundra

Bingo...... https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...9&postcount=26

[76z28]

i have both
i never did the tundra except against another one
i did the chevy recently
i already know my tundra will out run it in a strait line cause it beat my chevy worse than the bmw did

[formula]

ok so here's what you do. Race the tundra against the beemer. then race the beemer against the chevy. theeeeennn race the chevy against your camaro. Theeeeeennnnn race the camaro against the beemer. Then--race the beemer against the chevy. Then race the integra against the beemer and then run a three way race with both of the trucks and the camaro. Then race the camaro against the integra. Then learn to spell "Straight". Then have a tail-whipping competition between the tundra, the integra, and the camaro. Then see how many donuts you can do in the bmw in under 5 minutes. Finally, race the integra against you on a bicycle.

THEN you'll know.

[alowerlevel]

[6'9"Witha69]

ok so here's what you do. Race the tundra against the beemer. then race the beemer against the chevy. theeeeennn race the chevy against your camaro. Theeeeeennnnn race the camaro against the beemer. Then--race the beemer against the chevy. Then race the integra against the beemer and then run a three way race with both of the trucks and the camaro. Then race the camaro against the integra. Then learn to spell "Straight". Then have a tail-whipping competition between the tundra, the integra, and the camaro. Then see how many donuts you can do in the bmw in under 5 minutes. Finally, race the integra against you on a bicycle.

THEN you'll know.

I am seriously in tears right now. That is instant classic status right there!
:rofl:

[79-TA]

because if you have a little under steer you can whip the tail end back around
also my torque curve comes on pretty flat from 3500-6k
and around the track we live near with some straits horse will help

it didnt feel slow it just didnt feel good turning

and yes 2.5 is alot but considering that is more of a sports car than a heavy old truck not really...

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anyway,

Autocrosses (which can vary greatly in size and speed) aren't too hard on cars in terms of wear and tear. Find one and go run it already. I'm guessing your camaro has a pretty tired mush-ride suspension, but work with what you've got. Just make sure you have decent tires, preferably 400 treadwear or (much further) below.

As for road courses, your car might not be up to hot lapping, though I doubt you'd get in enough really hard laps in your first outing for it to matter. If it has an auto transmission, you'll at least need a transmission cooler. Stock brakes fade pretty badly, but that's a matter of how aggressive you are in the braking zones . . . whatever . . . no offense, but you didn't even get your Camaro out to the drag strip, so I have my doubts about you entering it in any sort of cornering contest.


How did the drag racing go? Do you have any times for any of the vehicles that you guys ran? . . . or was this just a quick setup on a local street?

[76z28]

lets see, my camaro does have a tranny cooler and the shocks are about 4 years old
and the truck vs the bimmer was street light to street light
he still believes his bmw will win in a line
im still skeptical about turning but he would probably get me
as for drag race he still thinks he will get two seconds on me....
and the camaro has out ran his integra by 10 to 15 car lengths
so i dont see where he is getting off saying he will win drag