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    1. #1
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      The Official Tube Notching Thread

      Hey guys, I'm going to start a tube notching thread, so.....

      If you have any questions, input, tips or tricks or horror stories about notching tube. The good, the bad and the ugly, here is the place for it.

      • Hole saw notchers......good or bad?
      • Best hole saw?
      • Abrasive notching vs. end mill style notching?
      • How many notches do you get from an abrasive belt?
      • Notching with a chop saw?
      • Best way, worst way to notch tube?
      • Software to help with tricky notch angles?
      • Notching schedule 40 pipe.....best way?
      • Home made notchers, lets see em!

    2. #2
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      I've got a Harbor Freight/Central Machinery notcher. The cheap $40 one. I've only used it a couple times on 1-1/2" sch40 steel pipe. Need to get it in a drill press b/c pushing it by hand sucks. I also have to shim out the pipe holder to get it to center on the hole saw. But for the price I can't complain. I'd love to have the scrilla to buy a better unit, but the price goes up astronomically to get a decent one.


    3. #3
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      I use the HF notcher also. Setting it up as I do I have no need for a drill press and this set up allows for a lot of freedom in setting up angles.
      I set all of this up on one of my jig tables but it will work on any bench or table top you have handy.
      These pics show my Harbour Freight tubing notcher clamped to a 90* angle plate. This is simple to set up and doesn't require a lot of thought or time...



      From the backside...



      Cutting the first notch is the easy part. No orientation, no length to worry about. Just clamp the tube in the notcher and do the deed.
      Cutting the second notch is where some planning needs to be done. Getting the LENGTH and the notch ORIENTATION correct is critical to having a usable part versus something to practice welding on...
      To do the second notch I bolted a short piece of the mating tubing to another angle plate and use this to nest the "first" notch into while cutting the second notch.



      This way I can establish the correct length AND notch orientation in one easy step... Set the tubing length between the outside diameter of the tubing and holesaw, in this case 23 inches, square up the jigs, clamp it all down and cut the second notch. Once it's set up any additional tubes will be identical to the first so measure twice and cut once...



      Cutting the second notch...




      It takes about half an hour to get the jigs set up and another half hour to run the tubing through.

      I use Castrol wax lubricant on the hole saw.



      This stuff works really well and doesn't make the mess that WD-40 or cutting fluid does. It also cleans up easily. I can do one notch in about 30 seconds running the notcher with my 1/2" Milwaukee drill.



      This set up makes for a clean cut and, with a little clean up with the angle grinder, I have some quality notches that fit well for Tig welding.





      And in response to a question about how well the HF tubing notcher works...

      I keep the spindle lubed with WD-40 and have had no problems notching 2" OD x .125 wall tubing with it...
      What I was doing the other day was 2" x .095 wall and the notcher went through it smooth and fast... I use good holesaws though... Look here...
      http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...PMPXNO=3008824

      Mark:
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      This my Bad Ast thread...
      https://www.pro-touring.com/showthre...roject-Faze-II
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      I did a quick mock-up of the new lower rails and crossmembers to see what the fit-up looks like. The notches came out great and I have some tight fitting joints for welding.

      I still have to clean up all of the welding surfaces yet, this is just a look see for fit-up. I will go over all of the joints with a flap wheel on the die grinder to prep for welding...
      Mark
      Mark:
      "Bad Ast" Astro Van. Just because I did it... Doesn't mean it's possible...
      This my Bad Ast thread...
      https://www.pro-touring.com/showthre...roject-Faze-II
      This is my Fotki album...
      http://astroracer.fotki.com/

    5. #5
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      Castrol wax lubricant

      I have never heard of using this in a notcher, but good info. Thanks!

    6. #6
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      Perfection....check it out


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      Wow - that's Pretty!
      Brandon Wiedeman
      1972 Suburban
      1967 Chevy II - Project not yet started

      I have about 3 lifetimes worth of projects planned out in my head!
      Wiedo's

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      Quote Originally Posted by BAILEIGH INC View Post
      Perfection....check it out

      I see someone checks out Race Dezert too.... amazing fabricators over there



    9. #9
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      I use the JD2 Beast its a holesaw style, i used several different types of notchers and this is the most versitile one. The reason i like the holesaw style is because its cheaper to replace and can find at any local hardware store. I used the motorized notchers with the endmills at Jerry Bickels and they arent as versitile, For example you can notch in the center of a bend with the beast and not the motorized one. Heres a link....
      http://www.jd2.com/shop/custom.aspx?recid=5

    10. #10
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      Quote Originally Posted by HarleyR View Post
      I see someone checks out Race Dezert too.... amazing fabricators over there

      Yep, thats where I got the pic.

      Amazing work!

    11. #11
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      Perfect for cages, check out our new addition!

      http://www.bii1.com/notchers/tube-notcher-tn250.php



    12. #12
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      We have an abrasive notching unit with a 3 1/2" at 30 degree tube notching capacity, which we love.

      I have been traveling to another shop lately werking on a top sportsman chassis with a shop that doesn't have a notcher.
      So I need a "traveling" notcher now

      I was thinking hard about the "the beast".... after seeing the new Baileigh notcher my mind is made up!!

      Josh

    13. #13
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      Quote Originally Posted by Streetwerkz View Post
      We have an abrasive notching unit with a 3 1/2" at 30 degree tube notching capacity, which we love.

      I have been traveling to another shop lately werking on a top sportsman chassis with a shop that doesn't have a notcher.
      So I need a "traveling" notcher now

      I was thinking hard about the "the beast".... after seeing the new Baileigh notcher my mind is made up!!
      Thanks Josh!

      Check out this movie of our new notcher

      Baileigh Tube Notcher TN-250 Video


    14. #14
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      After talking to Shane, and getting a price quote I'm SOLD!!!

      I can't belive what a value this is!!

    15. #15
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      "V" block vises are nice........correct. But the are very limited.
      Here are some pictures of what we can do with the TN-250 radial vise. I think the pictures speak for themselves.

    16. #16
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      and to think I was excited when I thought it just werked on round tube!!!

    17. #17
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      and to think I was excited when I thought it would only werk on round tube!!!

    18. #18
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      I have a pro-tool notcher works very well, and heavy duty. they have a good selections of tools for racers...link below

      http://www.pro-tools.com/hsn501i.htm


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    19. #19
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      So what is the cost on one of these TN-250?
      Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting - Holy cow - what a ride!!!
      See my build

      Jason

    20. #20
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      I ordered my TN-250 notcher 3 weeks ago.Waiting for it to show up.I may throw my mittler bros. notcher in the trash when the tn-250 notcher shows up.I have waiting to start my new camaro sub frame project until it shows.Please ship ASAP!!!!!!!.Scott.

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