Busted.

[Happyfunballs]

Linky. It happened all the time when I worked at the assembly plant here in STL. Kinda balzy considering current economic conditions.

[icebird84]

good job Rescue 4

[shortrack]

Wow!!.......Ford eh........my bros work at the GM plant in town where they will be making the Camaro....in 8 hrs they get two 10 min breaks and a 20 min lunch thats it......a car comes down the line every minute.......they work for 53 to 54 seconds of that minute......when they first started 25 yrs ago they worked 43 to 46 sec of every min........that type of chit these Ford guys are doing was gone 15 yrs ago at GM...... GM Oshawa anyway

[ProdigyCustoms]

And the union will protect them! Probably keep their jobs and get them rehab! My step father in law (rest his sole) worked at GM 25 years and would speak with much pride about how little they had to do. And what they got away with. I loved the old dude but as a business owner would kring when at the thought of someone telling me I had to put up with that.

[Happyfunballs]

I worked in the paint shop and watched a guy soak a rag in solvent, light it, and throw it on the sealer deck. When asked why, he said he wanted to see if it was flammable. The flammable warning signs on the hundreds of thousands of gallons of paint, e-coat, and primer tanks didn't give him the clue. In the end, he was off for two weeks, then returned to the same job.

[harshman]

How is it that they have no supervisors watching the time clock?

30 min. lunch is acceptable but a 22 min. afternoon break? Holy carp!!

My companies that I ran were pretty strict. If you came late you got to go home and try it again the next day. If you were late again you got to go home for good. It worked pretty well.

I have said this from the beginning – labor is your highest overhead in any company. If labor is out of control your company will fall the fastest. You can’t pay for an employee that doesn’t produce something – pensions as well as of site drinking.

[Happyfunballs]

The only guys that could get away with that were in maintenance. Typically if they weren't off site, they were playing poker on the roof. The sup. only cared where they were when they didn't show up for a breakdown.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

damn..

i figure they are able to do it because the guys watching their timeclock are doing it as well.. or something like it.

man i love it when guys like that get busted... makes us hard workers feel pretty good.

[dropit69]

holy crap ..thats amazing..but like said they will prolly keep there job somehow..

[jknight16]

The truly sad part is that there are thousands of other hard-working ex-Ford (and GM, and Chrysler) employees who were laid off in favor of keeping these clowns. Those are the people that should be most upset by this.

[XLexusTech]

Go UAW... its a shame

[GBodyGMachine]

I work at Ford, and a contract employee. And I can say, yes, this does happen. This guys are masters of their craft though. They can get away with murder, and the union will protect them. Why do you think they are trying to get rid of the union????
Thats why Ford hires so many contract workers. So they are not protected. You would not believe how much more productive a contract worker is compared to a Ford employee, at least where I work.
Jeff

[Vegas69]

How do I get that job?

[WS6]

How is it that they have no supervisors watching the time clock?

I bet they are supervisors that's why. Remember, in a union it's all about how many years you've worked not whether you're qualified for the job. Looking at their respective ages, I'm betting they aren't low man on the union totem pole.

Unions suck. I'll never support on nor join one. I'll always choose a nonunion shop to do any work for me if I can.

[Jim Nilsen]

Remember that the whole thing was started by someone who was thinking about someones saftey. It would be obvious that the union and the company are negligent in complying with both timeclock and alcohol use at that plant. Both sides have a problem and those guy's are now it. The girl who exposed it is the person probably out of a job now? The game is getting old and the good reasons for unions are buried in the deceit and theft from both sides.

Someone is definately working the timeclock at that plant.

[Jim Nilsen]

I bet they are supervisors that's why. Remember, in a union it's all about how many years you've worked not whether you're qualified for the job. Looking at their respective ages, I'm betting they aren't low man on the union totem pole.

Unions suck. I'll never support on nor join one. I'll always choose a nonunion shop to do any work for me if I can.

Not all unions are the same but jobs are and either one pays, but the union job just might pay more and you can do it.

What I am saying was told to me to wake me up years ago. Don't deny yourself of something good just because of others. you can be one of the respected union people if you choose to be. A good wage is hard to come by and if you can do the job for higher pay then why wouldn't you do it if you could still have your own sense of pride about what you do?

I can work for either because when I look at my check I see my name on it and that is who I work for. Work is not guaranteed in life, you have to want to work to survive and some after a lot of years forget that. Worked with a guy that would say," Work,Good thing I'm only in it for the money, because the entertainment value sucks"

That is definately a local news station with some balls

[WS6]

You've got a good point Jim. My problem, if it can be called that, is I can not get paid a wage I know is not legit. I do not consider auto union wages to be legitimate because they are forced upon the employer. I also have to have a sense of accomplishment and worth. I would not feel right making ridiculous money doing a measly job. Call me dumb, old fashioned, or whatever, I can't be that way. I think too many people see nothing wrong with that though and will gladly make their money and then in turn call the company greedy

[68BNUT]

No im in a union and that is just WRONG. I would have a problem being the steward that had to represent them in there greivances for being fired. There are a few things that you can be FIRED for no matter what Stealing and Falsifying records, which that would be if there saying they are there when they are at the bar.

We had a guy going home during the day, our security guys clocked him with 40 hours at his home in two weeks time. He got fired, tried to sue saying he was addicted to video games.

[Kenova]

Wow!!.......Ford eh........my bros work at the GM plant in town where they will be making the Camaro....in 8 hrs they get two 10 min breaks and a 20 min lunch thats it......a car comes down the line every minute.......they work for 53 to 54 seconds of that minute......when they first started 25 yrs ago they worked 43 to 46 sec of every min........that type of chit these Ford guys are doing was gone 15 yrs ago at GM...... GM Oshawa anyway

DAMN! I can't believe it either. I started at GM Oshawa in 1980 and it was common for guys on sub-assembly jobs to be done in 4 hrs., but the security had the plant on lock down. You didn't leave or enter during work hours, only lunch. Granted, there were a few who managed to sneak out somehow.
Twenty eight years later and all those jobs are gone. You are doing good to get an extra five minutes at lunch. I worked harder on my last job than I did on my first.
I guess that's why the GM Oshawa plants lead in productivity.

Ken

[minendrews68]

You've got a good point Jim. My problem, if it can be called that, is I can not get paid a wage I know is not legit. I do not consider auto union wages to be legitimate because they are forced upon the employer. I also have to have a sense of accomplishment and worth. I would not feel right making ridiculous money doing a measly job. Call me dumb, old fashioned, or whatever, I can't be that way. I think too many people see nothing wrong with that though and will gladly make their money and then in turn call the company greedy

Kind of off somewhat but something WS6 said about people gladly making their money and then calling the company greedy reminded me of the place I use to work. I once heard one of the other employees complaining about getting a lousy $65 for a Christmas gift. The company's owners gave every employee, regardless of time with the company, status in the company, or whatever, the customary $65 at Christmas. This worker was complaining saying that the company was cheap and that the owners had a lot of money and he couldn't believe that was all they were giving. I then reminded him that he did indeed have a job, a decent paying job, with all the benefits. A company, that when your plant made a showing either in production or safety almost always had a big barbecue for the whole plant. Our plant had just over 300 employees, and a few of the employees always got to cook. It was great! But the same went for all 12 plants, yes, over 4000 employees, x $65 = $260,000 out of the owners bottom line. Now, who was being selfish?