Obsidian SG1

[Boosted67]

that would be cool and would be graet press for both cars.

Cool. Will call/email as we close in on the final touches, or I get a timre frame for a shoot.

[wicked68]

Cool. Will call/email as we close in on the final touches, or I get a timre frame for a shoot.

invite jim ring to bring one ( he is very nice as well) and the guy from oklahoma that is building the licensed movie cars for a 4 way. you know with 4 primo cars there you will get some real attention. The World Mustang Super Car Shootout.

[CptKlutz]

B67, with the right timing I'm up for it!

Always fun to meet likeminded Stangers. As we planned, I'd like to take the car to the track for a shakedown before shipping it to Europe anyway. Find the worst gremlins, do a rough dial in etc. I was really hoping Laguna, but something closer if not possible. I can always take it on the Nordschleife at the Nuremberg Ring but Laguna Seca is what some of us euros dream about!
When we can see when we're through paint, I'll find some dates when I can be in the US and we can do the planning.

[oestek]

This car is only about 20 minutes from my home. Maybe I should go check it out.

That will be $25,000.00 please. *ching*

[Boosted67]

invite jim ring to bring one ( he is very nice as well) and the guy from oklahoma that is building the licensed movie cars for a 4 way. you know with 4 primo cars there you will get some real attention. The World Mustang Super Car Shootout.

See how many thousands of HP we can get to show up at once. lol
Jim can come, too. I'd like to see some of his work in person also.

[67chargedstang]

55forward, if you only knew. That car is NOTHING of what is says. It makes nothing close to that. The intercoolers were taken off during the dynos runs because they were heat soaking, and they didn't use 91. They used race gas. It made 654 to the ground, which ain't all that bad. But an injustice to the engine built for that car. And it doesn't do the "1000hp, and 1200 hp with mre tuning." He asked that the numbers be fudged even higher than that, but they wouldn't becasue they new better. Car has horrible belt slip I don't know if they ever fixed.

Hello guys, I love posts like this one from Boosted67, this guy has never seen the car. Let me give you the correct info.
The intercoolers can not be removed with this design as the intake and super charges are routed through as one unit, remove the intercoolers and there is no boost at all. Obsidian has had around 12 hours of Dyno time and 3-4 different days of tuning. Running only 7 lbs of boost from each supercharger (can make over 30 lbs each) the manufactures of the supercharges said it cant be done to run 2 of their units on the same engine, the Rotrex superchargers have no lag and make power instantly, no belt slip. The intercoolers do not get heat soaked due to the design of the tunnel air flow and belly pan that is on the car.
However in the Hot rod article they did, this was due to Roberto Guerrero driving the entire lap of Willow Springs big track in first gear at no less than 6300 RPM and around 40 MPH (info from on board computer) Yea that’s over 2.5 miles in first gear at over 6300 RPM, try that in your car see how hot every thing gets with no air flow on a super hot day over 100 degrees. (I drove Obsidian hard at Willow with no issues same day)
I can not comment on what happened with the shifter but lets say driver error. This is what happened that day a bummer but what can you do. So if you have any questions about the car just ask. I build fun cars and love what I do. Hot Rod only scratched the surface and did not mention the 50/50 weight distribution, full belly pan, tube frame, hidden roll cage, etc. We will be making a new video in the beginning of the new year if you guys are interested in seeing it.
Oh, I am not in charge of the 1.3 million dollar thing so don’t ask.

[go-fish]

Excuse me for my ignorance but what supercharger has lag?

I don't think anyone, or most anyway, are saying that it is bad quality of workmanship, it's really great. However, the hideous hood and impracticality of parts. I don't care what you say about the hood, it can't be more efficient for the intercooler up there than in the nose.

There are many things on the car that are top notch and very nice, workmanship and fabrications is great. But, you put a wierd hood, those wheels, and a paddle on a manual and ,sorry to say, they turn a great car into a forgetable car. The HRM press didn't help.

[wicked68]

Hello guys, I love posts like this one from Boosted67, this guy has never seen the car. Let me give you the correct info.
The intercoolers can not be removed with this design as the intake and super charges are routed through as one unit, remove the intercoolers and there is no boost at all. Obsidian has had around 12 hours of Dyno time and 3-4 different days of tuning. Running only 7 lbs of boost from each supercharger (can make over 30 lbs each) the manufactures of the supercharges said it cant be done to run 2 of their units on the same engine, the Rotrex superchargers have no lag and make power instantly, no belt slip. The intercoolers do not get heat soaked due to the design of the tunnel air flow and belly pan that is on the car.
However in the Hot rod article they did, this was due to Roberto Guerrero driving the entire lap of Willow Springs big track in first gear at no less than 6300 RPM and around 40 MPH (info from on board computer) Yea that’s over 2.5 miles in first gear at over 6300 RPM, try that in your car see how hot every thing gets with no air flow on a super hot day over 100 degrees. (I drove Obsidian hard at Willow with no issues same day)
I can not comment on what happened with the shifter but lets say driver error. This is what happened that day a bummer but what can you do. So if you have any questions about the car just ask. I build fun cars and love what I do. Hot Rod only scratched the surface and did not mention the 50/50 weight distribution, full belly pan, tube frame, hidden roll cage, etc. We will be making a new video in the beginning of the new year if you guys are interested in seeing it.
Oh, I am not in charge of the 1.3 million dollar thing so don’t ask.

your intercoolers should not get heat soaked no matter where or how its being driven. I see 2 problems with them- they are placed so the air flow is from the top of the manifold - which is going to give you hot air through them and not much air in the first place or if its from the opposite direction - which I am not sure how it would flow that way - it would be restricted trying to flow it down throgh the manifold area - even with fans on it.

What does the dual superchargers get you other than complication and expense - I can see twim turbos so you grab both sides of the exhaust driving them but a blower you can just go bigger on the single unit. I would like to know though if there is something I am missing on the dual blower setup for future projects.

where is the rollbar? I did not see it - what sanctioning spec is it to and what speed are you legal down to?

The more complex things are overall introduces more chance for error and breakage imho.

How did you guys build out the internals on the engine?

what driveline are you guys using?

Are you guys up to a supercar shootout????

I think we can have 4 cars in it and if nothing else it would be a lot of fun and a lot of good press.

Your workmanship on the car and the interior is excellent btw and I love it whenever anyone is putting musclecars back on the road for another 50 years :D

[67chargedstang]

The idea was to build a Mustang with street in mind, not track, the ultimate street car. Big engine, show stopping under the hood, a look no one else had ever done before. Super nice interior. Power windows, power door locks, electronic AC, big wheels. The roll cage is to make the car safer on the street incase of a roll over. Heavy enough for the ride to feel like a Cadillac but at the same time handle the corners, an all round fun car for the customer. You can cruise at 140 and talk on the blue tooth, its got a back up camera, huge brakes, all that in a package that works and using all new design not copied any else’s design any where on the car, that is super hard to do seems there has been people building these cars for over 40 years now. The hood scoop as big as it is has a purpose, some people like it some don’t that’s cool with me the customer loves it and the best part is that it is not in the way when you are driving. Because of the interior design and the different seating location it is not noticeable.
Looks are always up to the person looking, some like blonds and some like brunette, but bottom line is we all like them. We went out on a limb with this car been so radical and so far its been is 6 different countries magazines including , New Zealand, Australia, Europe, Mexico, France, USA 3, and on Speed TV, internet more than 5 different languages. It has been a lot of work but a fun build. My only person to please is my customer. He came to me and said he doesn’t want an Eleanor we wants something that is an original, that is what he got.

[John McIntire]

maybe the guys daily driver is a WRX and he got the intercooler idea from Subaru?

Also, what issue in HR did they cover the optima Shootout? Is it the same issue as the Obsidian?

[67chargedstang]

I dont think so, it would have been cool to go in that though.

[Boosted67]

Nevermind

[67chargedstang]

ok then

[Boosted67]

Nevermind

[Steve1968LS2]

This car is only about 20 minutes from my home. Maybe I should go check it out.

Do you have $25k to spend for the privilage? lol


Seriously... it's a beautiful car, but there is zero chance anyone will spend $1.3 million to buy it. You have to laugh when someone thinks they can recoup thier money like that.

The Hot Rod story didn't help the value at all...

And $25k just to view the car.. non refundable..

[67chargedstang]

I said my piece and I am not going to go back and forth with you, a lot to learn. All of our products are used on our cars, I Fabricate almost all of the parts my self just like my Chop Cut rebuild show that shows me build a complete car. Or are you talking about the Orange County Auto show 2007 when KTLA TV did a whole segment on the cars I build. I drive and test not talk about it, I even drove 7000 miles non stop in my 67 Mustang to Carlisle, PA. from San Diego and then on to the Hot Rod power tour, and back to San Diego. I was in hot rod magazine for that as well. Have you driven any of YOUR cars that far non stop? We are getting a bit carried away here, lets chill and hang like the old days. We both have the same goal to have fun with these cars. Right?

[Steve1968LS2]

Are you guys up to a supercar shootout????

I think we can have 4 cars in it and if nothing else it would be a lot of fun and a lot of good press.

Ohhh Ohhh.. can I come and play!??!?!!

Not really a "supercar".. but she did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last week.

Also, what issue in HR did they cover the optima Shootout? Is it the same issue as the Obsidian?

The optima coverage will be in the March issue of HR.. out in around a month

[67chargedstang]

Do you have $25k to spend for the privilage? lol


Seriously... it's a beautiful car, but there is zero chance anyone will spend $1.3 million to buy it. You have to laugh when someone thinks they can recoup thier money like that.

The Hot Rod story didn't help the value at all...

And $25k just to view the car.. non refundable..

Thank you, the company that is handling that I have nothing to do with. I am just the builder my job is to get the rubber on the road. I can take any one for a ride if I want, you can even come to the shop and look if you are in San Diego and the car is at the shop at the same time.

[vanzuuk1]

They should have had the car at the track long before its official unveiling,thats why professional race teams usually plan on a few days of sorting with a new car.

I think the mesh in the tail area looks great.

[67chargedstang]

The problem is it costs about 20K to go there for a couple of days and we had any problems sorted before that. When some one else is pulling the strings you just do. Better luck next time, I drove Obsidian around the mountains yesterday, that was alot of fun.