SCCA CAM-S Class

[alwaysracin]

Mark Scroggs is a good driver. Some of the CAM class cars at Crows Landing were stuck on old tires from the previous season due to one of two reasons, dock worker strikes or the new Rival S tires are not out. Mark was running the new RE71R tires and from what I have heard, they are fast. Some of the CAM cars are still in development. It's ok, you can make fun of me. I am just a slow hack driver but after a run I WILL have the biggest smile from ear to ear from trying to tame the 850hp beast on 200 TW tires.

Bring your car out and lets see how you do

Scott Fraser
Hacking it up in CAM-S with a HUGE smile


Oh, FS is going to change. You will soon see a new Mustang winning. The times have changed

We aren't going to San Diego because even with the quiet mufflers, we have no chance in hell to pass sound.

[mpozzi]

Hack, my ass …

But everything else you said is 100% spot on.

[nokones]

Sound is one reason, Kenny. The event is at Qualcomm and I think it's a 93dB. And the Pro is the following week at El Toro. There are the SFR Tour and Pro a month later at Crows Landing and pretty sure we will have folks coming up for those too.

Mary Pozzi

Finally, I got my car out of all the shops in time for the Tour. I had no problem before with the old motor in regards to sound. We'll see if I can pass with the new motor.

[dontlifttoshift]

Im not making fun of any one, I've been beat by "lesser cars" a bunch of times and a handful of times even beat better cars. All the CAM-T drivers that were at the top of the field at Crows can wheel a car, there is no doubt about that.

Scott, we are on the same page, have a good time, that's the point. You may have some competition on biggest smile after the run..

The classes just open up the possibility for more butthurt when someone thinks they are outclassed when really they just got outdriven.......that was the hardest, most expensive lesson I learned in my short autocrossing career......This will lead to the want for more classes and further dilution down the road

I really think the new Mustang is the car to have this year for FS if someone can get some decent shocks on it.

The Re71 certainly seems to be the new hotness, Bridgestone, Y U NO make wider sizes?

[soloracerSD]

I know sound hurts our entries at the Tour.Yes 93DB limit.WE have had 315 entries in the past but years ago Same DB limit.What's it like in San Fran for the tour.Word is this could be our LAST TOUR in SD



Sounds like from what I heard on this post.Some don't like the CAM split,C,S.T.The first offering of CAM also offered a split.I think one of the reason San Diego has plenty of CAM-T is because of it being T..Most old cars want to run with old cars.Especially new guys.They just feel it's more realistic completition for them.First impressions is what get's them to the event.True they are still built to race cars, but you are less likely to find ,ABS, Traction and Launch control on them.Even though I did contact a SCCA Official last year before our tour to let him know it's 1978 and older.Reply was why,,, well .Because of Modern tech stuff.THen was told they can put all that on their cars to so it shouldn't make any difference...It's CAM...I still think the split is better.It recruits older cars That would only be competitive in CP otherwise with the mods they would make.The newer ones have opportunities in FS,ESP ETC..thats why I'm not as supportive of it.

[nokones]

I know sound hurts our entries at the Tour.Yes 93DB limit.WE have had 315 entries in the past but years ago Same DB limit.What's it like in San Fran for the tour.Word is this could be our LAST TOUR in SD

Sounds like from what I heard on this post.Some don't like the CAM split,C,S.T.The first offering of CAM also offered a split.I think one of the reason San Diego has plenty of CAM-T is because of it being T..Most old cars want to run with old cars.Especially new guys.They just feel it's more realistic completition for them.First impressions is what get's them to the event.True they are still built to race cars, but you are less likely to find ,ABS, Traction and Launch control on them.Even though I did contact a SCCA Official last year before our tour to let him know it's 1978 and older.Reply was why,,, well .Because of Modern tech stuff.THen was told they can put all that on their cars to so it shouldn't make any difference...It's CAM...I still think the split is better.It recruits older cars That would only be competitive in CP otherwise with the mods they would make.The newer ones have opportunities in FS,ESP ETC..thats why I'm not as supportive of it.

The opportunities is FS, ESP, ETC., are very restricted. You can't do all the cool go-fast mods in FS, ESP, ETC., like you can in CAM. The entry count for San Diego has been going backwards in the last two days. It is now at 199 down from 203 at the closing of the registration.

[soloracerSD]

Kenny add Street Mod and CP then..Or what I mentioned in my first post here SMH in place of CAM.I know FS and ESP isn't for everyone .But I bet you it's for most.CAM-C I know some guys I'll be sending to CAM-C to run.If they changed a Cam,or added Fiber glass panels.I'll tell them CAM,SM or CP..If they added wings then it's only SM..SSM Wings not allowed in CAM. I'm not a complete hater of CAM-C.But a driver legal to run FS or ESP but choose not to because of a 3600lb 300hp imports(rough estimate) disappoints me.Thinking better to be beat by a more moded Muscle car then a equal import ..It's their choise .But it puzzles me

.Maybe I enjoy debating to much is why I bring this stuff up.Maybe it's because of my family tree of politicians. that I like debating

It's a sad thing seeing our tour under 250. under 200 and it starts looking like a empty event.

[nokones]

Kenny add Street Mod and CP then..Or what I mentioned in my first post here SMH in place of CAM.I know FS and ESP isn't for everyone .But I bet you it's for most.CAM-C I know some guys I'll be sending to CAM-C to run.If they changed a Cam,or added Fiber glass panels.I'll tell them CAM,SM or CP..If they added wings then it's only SM..SSM Wings not allowed in CAM. I'm not a complete hater of CAM-C.But a driver legal to run FS or ESP but choose not to because of a 3600lb 300hp imports(rough estimate) disappoints me.Thinking better to be beat by a more moded Muscle car ..It's their choise .But it puzzles me.Maybe I enjoy debating to much is why I bring this stuff up.Maybe it's because of my family tree of politicians. that I like debating

It's a sad thing seeing our tour under 250. under 200 and it starts looking like a empty event.

I don't think that I have ever been to an event even a local regional event where the attendance was under 200. The problem might be because of the availability of the tires.

In my opinion, even the SM and Prepared Categories have way too many rule limitations. CAM can be the greatest category on earth for SCCA if they don't start making unnecessary rules like restricting certain cars. They need to allow the Corvettes and Vipers run in CAM and they need to allow them for this weekend.

[mpozzi]

It was weird seeing the entries so low for SD Tour this year and couldn't believe when we were done with 3rd Heat by 1pm. Loved the courses and the hospitality by SCCA, et al, and your Corvette did well for it's first outing, Kenny. As for sound … for me it was 85.x dB on Saturday and 91.x for Sunday. Same course but run backwards between Saturday and Sunday. I do know a few "blew sound" by several dB's and had to make repairs.

Mary Pozzi

[nokones]

It was weird seeing the entries so low for SD Tour this year and couldn't believe when we were done with 3rd Heat by 1pm. Loved the courses and the hospitality by SCCA, et al, and your Corvette did well for it's first outing, Kenny. As for sound … for me it was 85.x dB on Saturday and 91.x for Sunday. Same course but run backwards between Saturday and Sunday. I do know a few "blew sound" by several dB's and had to make repairs.

Mary Pozzi

To my amazement, my sound level was measured at 87-88 on Saturday and 88-89 on Sunday. I think, I was on the gas when I went by the sound station. With my motor you think I should have busted the sound meter or at least be at the violation bubble level. I tried to convince Mitch and Ralph to give me some of their dB's so I can be worthy with my killer motor and be in the 90 dB range.

Thanks Mary. After being DFL and being beat by a bunch of non-american made cars, I better learn how to drive on non-R compound tires with bunch of horsepower very quickly. That was a new experience. I definitely missed my R compound tires. I have a lot of learning to do with street tires.

Hopefully, I will learn a little more at the Texas optima event this coming weekend.