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    1. #1
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      Quote Originally Posted by AutoX_a_Truck? View Post
      Is modifying existing SCCA rules fair game since you are creating a regional SCCA class? If so, this could be a start:

      Cars running the Pro Touring Category must have been series produced by a United States based manufacturer with normal road touring equipment, capable of being licensed for normal road use in the United States, and normally sold and delivered through a United States based manufacturer’s retail sales outlets in the United States. Car models not specifically listed in any Pro Touring Category must have been produced by a United States based manufacturer, and must meet the above requirements and have been sold by a United States based manufacturer through normal United States dealerships, in quantities of at least 1,000 in a 12-month period in order to be eligible for the Pro Touring Category.

      Because this is a new supplement for just our Region, we can create it to be anything we want.

      I like where you are going with the above. The only question I have is how does that description relate to the 2012 Dodge Challenger that is currently running with us? Would Dodge still be considered a "United States Based" manufacturer and dealership with their new ownership?

      I would like the class to include all larger typically American made muscle cars without exclusions, but not leave the door open for a 4 door Porsche Caymen or a Toyota Camry to sneak in. I believe the new Camaro, new Challenger, possibly even the new Mustangs might enjoy running in this class instead of F Stock or SM where they typically get stuck now. Heck we had an almost completely factory 2012 Mustang out with a aftermarket supercharger on it couple of events ago and they stuck him in XP.

      Lance
      1985 Monte Carlo SS Street Car


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      Quote Originally Posted by SSLance View Post
      Because this is a new supplement for just our Region, we can create it to be anything we want.

      I like where you are going with the above. The only question I have is how does that description relate to the 2012 Dodge Challenger that is currently running with us? Would Dodge still be considered a "United States Based" manufacturer and dealership with their new ownership?

      I would like the class to include all larger typically American made muscle cars without exclusions, but not leave the door open for a 4 door Porsche Caymen or a Toyota Camry to sneak in. I believe the new Camaro, new Challenger, possibly even the new Mustangs might enjoy running in this class instead of F Stock or SM where they typically get stuck now. Heck we had an almost completely factory 2012 Mustang out with a aftermarket supercharger on it couple of events ago and they stuck him in XP.
      The only air tight method is probably to list specific makes and models that are eligible as well as specific makes and models that are not eligible similar to the SCCA rule book. A comprehensive list isn't really feasible so maybe examples would be better. The tricky part is coming up with all of the outliers.

      As a starting point, it is somewhat easy to define most of the General Motors cars that I think you are trying to capture in the spirit of the class with a relatively simple rule:

      RWD General Motors A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, K, V (2004-2006 Pontiac GTO), X, and Y-Bodies (1960-1964) in addition to Alpha and Zeta Platforms
      Tyler Gibson

      There's nothing like building up an old automobile from scratch and wiping out one of these Detroit machines... That'll give you a set of emotions that will stay with you... Know what I mean? Those satisfactions are permanent...

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      The Salina Region runs a STO and STU class... Street Tire, O=Over and U=under The limiting factor is the engine displacement. Haven't found out what the cutoff is yet though.

      Limit ours to 5.0 lt and up maybe? Maybe make the engine block be of the same manufacturer of the body to keep someone from putting an LS1 in a Miata and running this class?
      Lance
      1985 Monte Carlo SS Street Car



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