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    1. #1
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      New ProForged Upper Control Arms

      I saw these at SEMA last week and thought I would share. I had a very lengthly conversation with Zack Kanter, President of ProForged, about the arm's design. It uses a 0.9" taller screw-in ball joint, has adjustable caster slugs, and provides extra tire clearance. Pretty cool pieces. He did say that they won't be ready to ship until the beginning of 2012.















    2. #2
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      The option list for tubular arms continues to grow.

      Some questions:
      - How much reward offset is built in for increasing caster and what range of adjustment do the slugs have?
      - Will there be a bumpstop added?
      - MIG welded? looks like it
      - Tubing size(s)?
      - Mild steel DOM, chromoly or?
      - Country of origin?
      Clint - '70 Nova "restomod" cruiser & autocross family car

    3. #3
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      Subscribed.....
      Troy
      67GTO

    4. #4
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      Quote Originally Posted by TheBandit View Post
      The option list for tubular arms continues to grow.

      Some questions:
      - How much reward offset is built in for increasing caster and what range of adjustment do the slugs have?
      - Will there be a bumpstop added?
      - MIG welded? looks like it
      - Tubing size(s)?
      - Mild steel DOM, chromoly or?
      - Country of origin?
      eagerly waiting to know.
      Blake Foster
      www.speedtechperformance.com
      435-628-4300
      St. George Utah.
      it's always sunny here.

    5. #5
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      Quote Originally Posted by TheBandit View Post
      The option list for tubular arms continues to grow.

      Some questions:
      - How much reward offset is built in for increasing caster and what range of adjustment do the slugs have?
      - Will there be a bumpstop added?
      - MIG welded? looks like it
      - Tubing size(s)?
      - Mild steel DOM, chromoly or?
      - Country of origin?
      He did say that there would be different slugs offered so you could fine tune the caster, with the max gain being 5 degrees, but I'm not sure how much is built into the arms and how much comes from the slugs.

      I sent Mr. Kanter a link to this thread so I'm sure he will be in here shortly with more specifics than I can offer.

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      Cliff - thanks for posting this up and sending us the link!

      These are a flat arm designed for maximum clearance. To my knowledge, they are the only tubular arm on the market that uses a 0.90" taller ball joint. This tall ball joint achieves an aggressive but streetable negative camber curve. We use a screw-in style ball joint for a clean design and maximum travel in all directions. Low friction Delrin® bushings are used for smooth and predictable handling.

      Quote Originally Posted by TheBandit View Post
      Some questions:
      - How much reward offset is built in for increasing caster and what range of adjustment do the slugs have?
      - Will there be a bumpstop added?
      - MIG welded? looks like it
      - Tubing size(s)?
      - Mild steel DOM, chromoly or?
      - Country of origin?
      Thanks for the interest! These arms are the first prototypes and we are still in the process of nailing down a final design. The preliminary answers are below:

      - We are shooting for 3-5* positive caster at max adjustment. The final figure depends on the amount of frame clearance we have to work with. When we have a final figure, we'll definitely post it up.

      - We will be including 3 slugs - "0" offset (seen in the photo), a mild offset, and an aggressive offset. The aggressive offset slugs currently have the ability to move the arm 0.375" from the "0" offset position. This would end up being somewhere between 3-5 degrees.

      - It is MIG welded in the USA.

      - The tubing is 1" OD, .219 wall thickness, 1018 mild steel DOM.

    8. #8
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      Glad for another choice. Hopefully there will be options for second gen Camaros.
      Stephen

    9. #9
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      Quote Originally Posted by srh3trinity View Post
      Glad for another choice. Hopefully there will be options for second gen Camaros.


      Good question:

      What applications are these going to be available for? Any plans on a lower control arm as well?

    10. #10
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      OK send me a set, if you must I will test the crap outta them

    11. #11
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      Most Excellent design, if i must say. Looks striklingly simular to the set i sold you 6 months ago
      Blake Foster
      www.speedtechperformance.com
      435-628-4300
      St. George Utah.
      it's always sunny here.

    12. #12
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      It looks like a hybrid of several manufacturers, some cool features of each incorporated into this arm, along with some unique ones.
      Steven

      1968 Camaro: Project "TRACKDAY"

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    13. #13
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      Quote Originally Posted by killer69 View Post
      Most Excellent design, if i must say. Looks striklingly simular to the set i sold you 6 months ago
      I did buy a set of these from you back in April 2010, almost 2 years ago. Anyways, the profile of your arm is great for wheel clearance and when we started designing our arms we certainly thought back on the Speedtech arm's profile. The profile of the arm aside, they are very different - we use a screw-in, 0.90" taller upper ball joint vs. your stock length, 4-bolt upper ball joint, and we have a caster slug adjustable cross shaft vs. your fixed cross shaft. Our bushing design is a unique, low friction Delrin® configuration that allows the cross shaft to rotate so freely that you can move it by hand. Our arms and your arms serve two very different purposes...it seem that yours was designed mainly for wheel clearance and use with a tall spindle, whereas ours is built for geometry correction with stock spindles (although we will also have a standard-length screw-in ball joint version for people using tall spindles).

      In terms of the high clearance shape...the location of the frame mounts and the other obstacles really dictates the shape of the arm - this is why so many arms come out looking strikingly similar:


      Last edited by Proforged; 11-08-2011 at 04:19 PM.

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      oh, here we go again.... " a perfection of a component may often resemble another simply because it maybe the only way to build it "
      MrQuick ΜΟΛ'ΩΝ ΛΑΒ'Ε


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      Are there plans for a G-body version?
      Tyson
      '95 Firebird Formula: suspension + 315's
      '66 Mustang Coupe, 289

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      We are doing the A-Body arms next, then 2nd Gen F-Body. G-Body arm are a possibility in late 2012.

    17. #17
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      Quote Originally Posted by Proforged View Post
      We are doing the A-Body arms next, then 2nd Gen F-Body. G-Body arm are a possibility in late 2012.
      Troy
      67GTO

    18. #18
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      Thank you for responding to all my questions. Do you have a target list price?
      Clint - '70 Nova "restomod" cruiser & autocross family car

    19. #19
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      We are shooting for $649-699 per pair.

      Thanks for the interest!

    20. #20
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      what is the distance between the bolt holes on the cross shaft?

      What is the effective length from cross shaft to balljoint?

      What taper is the balljoint? chrysler? ford? gm?

      Reason I ask, I know what I'd need, but no one makes a ford galaxie application UCA. Other MFGs started r and d, but refuse to bring them to market. I'm not paying thousands of dollars for a one off set.
      -Dave

      Project George - '66 Ford Galaxie 500 fastback

      Working on interior, body and paint now.
      Forged 306/C4. Collecting turbo parts for TT setup.

      I have tons of 65/66 galaxie parts collected. If you need something, just ask! my wife will thank you.

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