Monte 12 bolt in a Camaro

[Quickboat]

I know this sounds nuts, but can a cut down 12 bolt Monte Carlo rearend be used with a 4-link setup in my 67 Camaro? I was planning on custom axle length anyway and the price is right. Are the link eyes in a useable location for say a ridetech setup?
TIA

[Quickboat]

No one?

[astroracer]

Is the housing already narrowed? If so, is it the correct width for your set-up? Cost is relative to the modifications required. If you have to narrow it and buy new axles it may be better to simply go with a 9 inch and build it accordingly. I would contact Ride Tech about bracket spacing. I am sure they have on-line instructions so you could measure what you have to determine usability.
Mark

[Quickboat]

The housing is out of a first gen Monte. The guy wants a 100 bucks for it. I has not been touched and I am in the market for a 12 bolt anyway and first gen Camaro 12 bolts are at a premium. I dont really want a 9 inch and will not need the leaf spring perches anyway.
I am looking hard and cant find much about the width of the first gen 12 bolts but I think they are narrower to start with. Anyone chime in?

[Quickboat]

I found out by looking at axle lengths and the first gen Monte is 1 1/16th longer then the first gen Camaros axle. Moser wants about $2500 w/o brakes for a custom 12 bolt.

[exwestracer]

I'd say it really depends on how much tire you plan on putting under it. Putting a stock type 4 link in a 1st gen isnt the easiest thing in the world. If the lower brackets are too close to the ends to clear your tire, you really arent gaining anything by trying to use it.

[Quickboat]

I'd say it really depends on how much tire you plan on putting under it. Putting a stock type 4 link in a 1st gen isnt the easiest thing in the world. If the lower brackets are too close to the ends to clear your tire, you really arent gaining anything by trying to use it.

I was looking at a ridetech or another brand of 4-link. I am mini tubbing and want a 325 tire.

[exwestracer]

Ah. If you're planning on cutting all the stock brackets off anyway, go for it...

[19,69camaro]

This is what I would do/should have, but I didn't know any better.
Cut off ends and have big ford housing ends welded on. http://www.moserengineering.com/circ...m-bearing.html

Get new axles

Weld on leaf spring perches (super cheap)

Install bolt on ridetech 4-link.

Use f-body ls1 brakes

But hey if you still want to use c-clips I have some brand new axles I can sell you.

[Quickboat]

This is what I would do/should have, but I didn't know any better.
Cut off ends and have big ford housing ends welded on. http://www.moserengineering.com/circ...m-bearing.html

Get new axles

Weld on leaf spring perches (super cheap)



Install bolt on ridetech 4-link.

Use f-body ls1 brakes

But hey if you still want to use c-clips I have some brand new axles I can sell you.

Ride tech said I should use the weld on axle brackets instead of welding on leaf spring perches and using the bolt ons. The stock Monte upper link brackets will work, so I can delete those weld ons from the kit. This might work!
I am planning on using a shorter axle then Camaro stock, so c-clip eliminators will be used when I shorten the housing.

[19,69camaro]

Just to let you know there is a difference in c-clip eliminators and tapered bearings. C-clip eliminators are not designed for lateral loads.

[Quickboat]

Just to let you know there is a difference in c-clip eliminators and tapered bearings. C-clip eliminators are not designed for lateral loads.

Got any links to what is needed for an upgrade that will take the lateral loads?

[19,69camaro]

The ends that use large ford type bearings like I posted above.

[Quickboat]

The ends that use large ford type bearings like I posted above.

Those will only take the Hobby Stock 500-600 dollar axles? Isn't that a biy of overkill?

[19,69camaro]

Depends on what your doing with the car

[Quickboat]

I was planning on occasional Autox/RR days, not but a couple a year. I want it strong but I do have a budget too. I have to get a posi unit and brakes too. What is the next best option?

[Skip Fix]

Strange makes a "street" C clip elim that uses taper bearings.

Heck I'd snatch it clean it up and sell it for $500-what cores go for here and buy a new Moser housing/axles with what you need. Pretty sure it's the same as an A body.They have stouter caps also.

[Quickboat]

Strange makes a "street" C clip elim that uses taper bearings.

Heck I'd snatch it clean it up and sell it for $500-what cores go for here and buy a new Moser housing/axles with what you need. Pretty sure it's the same as an A body.They have stouter caps also.

I thought of re-selling but went ahead and removed the brackets

I guess I will find a kit like one of the ones above for a 33 spline setup.

[davidk68]

Hey Jim,
There was an episode of Musclecar on TV this weekend where they shortened an Impala rearend and put on new Moser housing ends made to work with big Ford Brearings and Special Ford/Chevy axles and eliminated the C-clip You can probably watch it on Powerblock TV. They kept the same 30 splines as stock 12 bolt though.

I'm running a shortened Monte 12 bolt in my 68 Camaro. This C-clip conversion is now on my wish list

David

[Skip Fix]

Just be sure who ever welds on the pads has an idea what angle for pinion angle to use. I had picked up a 12 bolt years ago a guy had cut off the leaf spring perches to use a floater but never finished the project. Found a chassis guy that did a lot of circle track Camaros welded on the Mopar style pads. Fast forward to 2 years ago(10 years after the welding-guy is gone) when I go to put it in my Camaro project and find the pinion angle is WAY down. Found some steel angle shims in different degrees from the 4x4 guys to get it right. So find a housing to copy the angle of the brackets vs the pinion-or I can sell you a few steel shims for a good price

I've heard about the TV show deal-they did not even use a solid jig made for welding the ends on straight just used the axles!