Letters from the edge..

[race-rodz-inc]

i been playin with my new toy(RC51)... havent really been "on" the truck the last couple weeks... other than makin some of the interior tin & shoppin for engine parts. been slammed with harley paint work and have no time for my stuff. and no... no $$ for product placement... in fact i will prolly get sued for using the cups for mock-up in pics posted on the internet, without expressed written consent.

the only sponsor i have is "the poor white boy food fund".... meaning if i wanna spend money on the truck..i have to go hungry.

[race-rodz-inc]

Wow! That's what I'm talkin' about. Way to go Race-Rodz!!

i saw the lexus powered 32........ that car was super clean, this truck is gonna be more "road warrior" or "track whore" than show car street rod. its gettin done to abuse, and i might not wanna abuse it if its all shiny and pretty. i cant think of a single thing that this will have that it doesnt "need". no stereo, heater, no cup holders.... i really had to think long and hard about building a pass seat for it! \

as for this being mag worthy... i couldnt care less.... if making it pretty and shiny is the only way its mag worthy... then you will never see it in any of the big mags.

this has/will be built 99.9% by me, a worthless 28 y/o punk kid, in my shop at home.... only farming out the essentials(engine machining, cnc parts, etc), i am building something different with the "because i can" attitude, you wont ever see it in any car shows(maybe doin doughnuts in the parking lot)... but you will see it parked at the 7-11, McDonalds drive thrue.... and of coarse on any racetrack i can make it to.

im glad everybody likes it... i will get more pics as soon as i can.

[MuscleRodz]

just a guy with a couple of kool cars
SW

Have you looked at your list lately? I say more than a few.

Dang. I leave for a few hours and you guys run an entire page on me. I guess I will have to quit work to keep up with the gossip.

I saw Cook's Camaro before he took it to Columbus. Two things I really liked was the handmade grill and the twin Paxton Superchargers. I won't knock it because it is better than what I got right now.

Mike

[LS1Z28]

Hey Steve How about Shooting a Thrid gen, The most over looked Camaro.

[Steve1968LS2]

Hey Steve How about Shooting a Thrid gen, The most over looked Camaro.

Sure..

Here is the deal.. PHR seems to MOSTLY shoot 60's and 70's era American musclecars..

If a car falls outside this "window" then it has to be extra cool in some respect.. the farther outside the window the more bitchen it has to be.

For a 2000 Camaro to get in it has to be way way cool.. same for a 50's era car. I'm not talking cool as in more of a "show car" but cool in some way like it is hardcore raced has some unique facet (drivetrain?) or, yes, even just way better to look at. I would like to think that my old 2000 SS would get in since it had looks and the performance stuff to back it up. Plus it hit the track.

I saw a NICE '70 Duster yesterday. A very cool car with nice motor, interior and paint.. perfect magazine car except it still had drum brakes. I gave the guy my car and told him "when you get some discs all around call me". The guy was happy as a clam and ran home to tell his wife he "had" to get new brakes.. lol..

If Race-Rodz truck turns out as cool as it seems I don't see why it wouldn't get featured.. sometimes the points you get for being "different" outweight the points you loose for not having a hot paint job. Driving your car at the track gives you more points on occasion than having a custom interior.

Did any of that make sense? And how happy is a damn clam?

[Hartz]

Sure..

I saw a NICE '70 Duster yesterday. A very cool car with nice motor, interior and paint.. perfect magazine car except it still had drum brakes. I gave the guy my car and told him "when you get some discs all around call me". The guy was happy as a clam and ran home to tell his wife he "had" to get new brakes.. lol..

Ah ha! See, now you've hit my hot button. Who cares if he still had drums? Will it not photograph as well? Does that make the engine less cool? Does it make the paint look blotchy? No! If the car was a nice as you say, then why can't you have a feature with drum brakes? Why does the car have to meet some unstated level of completion prior to being covered?

This coming from the guy who's still got rear drums, but still! On one hand magazines talk about not doing only high dollar cars and wanting to show more "common" vehicles, and on the other hand this poor guy has to go out and spend $1000+ on a brake system to get a photo taken of his car. And yes, I know he can probably scavenge some system for far less, but you hopefully understand my point.

[Steve1968LS2]

Ah ha! See, now you've hit my hot button. Who cares if he still had drums? Will it not photograph as well? Does that make the engine less cool? Does it make the paint look blotchy? No! If the car was a nice as you say, then why can't you have a feature with drum brakes? Why does the car have to meet some unstated level of completion prior to being covered?

This coming from the guy who's still got rear drums, but still! On one hand magazines talk about not doing only high dollar cars and wanting to show more "common" vehicles, and on the other hand this poor guy has to go out and spend $1000+ on a brake system to get a photo taken of his car. And yes, I know he can probably scavenge some system for far less, but you hopefully understand my point.

No, but it made the guy happy because now he had a reason to get good brakes.. lol..

Having disc brakes is not "high dollar", but the whole point of pro-touring is updating older car to more modern standards. I see your point but we push performance and sorry but drum brakes on all fours just do not work.

Now if he took the car to the track with say, rear drums, and ran the car that way then fine.. obviously they work. But he had just not gotten around to it yet. This will motivate him.

Besides.. you generally on get ONE time to be in a magazine.. nothing is worse than having your car shot and featured before it is done and then finishing it later only to find out that nobody wants to shoot your car because it has been shot already. (been there, done that)..

I see your point, but trust me, he will be happier with decent brakes

[KrisHorton]

Having "Popular" in the name dictates things about the car should be popular. Like disc brakes. Or did I miss the part where we decided having technologically inferior parts on our cars was the beauty way to go? Sorry, just being a douche.

Kris

[harshman]

Having "Popular" in the name dictates things about the car should be popular. Like disc brakes. Or did I miss the part where we decided having technologically inferior parts on our cars was the beauty way to go? Sorry, just being a douche.

Kris

Hey Kris,

Technological brakes – are you referring to slotted, cross drilled, or slotted and cross drilled, or plain?

Does it smell like vinegar to you guys or is it just me?

[Hartz]

No, that's a valid point. There are a lot of "popular" brake kits available right now. And I'm probably in the minority on this one, and I know that.

I think I just have my panties in a wad because you always hear people crying about high-dollar cars in magazines getting all the press, and wouldn't it be nice to have some low-buck, home built cars. So here is a, by all accounts, "nice" car - but it's not "perfect" because it doesn't have 4 wheel discs, so therefore it can't get a feature.

And BTW, my rear drums are B-E-A-YOOOTIFUL baby!

[LS1Z28]

What Steve is saying is you have to be a parts Whore before the Magazine will even consider you. All the Magazine is,is a big parts Catalog and if you want to be considered you had better buy some parts from the advertisers.

[Steve1968LS2]

What Steve is saying is you have to be a parts Whore before the Magazine will even consider you. All the Magazine is,is a big parts Catalog and if you want to be considered you had better buy some parts from the advertisers.

Wow.. you nailed that one exactly :bsjerk:

[harshman]

What Steve is saying is you have to be a parts Whore before the Magazine will even consider you. All the Magazine is,is a big parts Catalog and if you want to be considered you had better buy some parts from the advertisers.

Sour grapes perhaps? And yet you must read the magazine to obtain all that information – amazing.

[Steve1968LS2]

No, that's a valid point. There are a lot of "popular" brake kits available right now. And I'm probably in the minority on this one, and I know that.

I think I just have my panties in a wad because you always hear people crying about high-dollar cars in magazines getting all the press, and wouldn't it be nice to have some low-buck, home built cars. So here is a, by all accounts, "nice" car - but it's not "perfect" because it doesn't have 4 wheel discs, so therefore it can't get a feature.

And BTW, my rear drums are B-E-A-YOOOTIFUL baby!

It didn't even have two wheel disc.. savy?

that whole "high buck car" think is a cop out.. a magazine wont feature a piece of **** car but they care more about how the car looks (does it look cool?) and performs than how much was spent. Look at the Cover car for August. The low-buck Nova.. so how did that car get on the cover since it is not a "high dollar car"? What about the Maverick?

Here is hot tip.. a car does NOT have to be super nice.. hell, it doesn't even have to be nice. What it does have to be is interesting and have the right look. It is easy to spend a lot of money and have the right look but it takes more tallent/luck to get that look if you have a tiny budget. So, this being the case, the less you spend the more inventive and creative you have to be to have a car with the right "look". This is why you see more expensive cars in magazine, because it is easier to throw lots money at a car then to use a little bit of $$ creatively.

Also, the car needs to be interesting enough to write 7000 characters about it. A stock motor with drum brakes and a vinal interior is NOT going to be an interesting read unless it has a hell of a backstory to go along with it (Ex racecar that the owner won in a poker game and now runs at Bonneville, etc.)

Also, we don't really care if you are running Baer Alcons or four-wheel factory disc.. or rear wheel drum if you actually run the car on a track like that. Personally I think rear disc on most cars is almost more asthetic than functional.

Maybe we need to do a rat-rod pro-touring edition? ;)

[KrisHorton]

Hey Kris,

Technological brakes – are you referring to slotted, cross drilled, or slotted and cross drilled, or plain?

Does it smell like vinegar to you guys or is it just me?

You looking to actually start a disc brake arguement within a magazine arguement. Good lord. You're crazy man.

[vanzuuk1]

Steve You are in a no-win situation with some people, but most of us love the mag and can see you are a real enthusiast.

Dont be scared off.

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve You are in a no-win situation with some people, but most of us love the mag and can see you are a real enthusiast.

Dont be scared off.

No worries.. like I've said before, it's the internet, besides most of the time stuff on here reads more harsh than it was meant.

I'm enthusiasticlly enthused about being an enthusiast..

and anyone that doesn't like it can my .

;)

[TonyHuntimer]

The beatings will continue until morale improves.



I'm glad everyone is getting along,
Tony~

Too bad PHR can't feature a beat up old car like my Daily Driver .

[Steve1968LS2]

Too bad PHR can't feature a beat up old car like my Daily Driver .

Did it have drum brakes???

[TonyHuntimer]

Yeah. I wonted to impresss the wimmin so I installed some of those new fangled Alcon and PBR drummer breaks on my g-ride.




Tony~