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    1. #621
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tomswheels View Post
      We are still trying to work Warren for our own class, basically SM or SU rules but with pre-78 cars only
      can you make that pre-2000? lol JK.

      honestly that's the dilemma I'm having though. I would love to go CP but the wing problem is a big one. And I'd go SU but I don't want to step on anybody's toes by doing so. I have to make a decision for next year because I know one thing is for certain, the car is going be way over the line for SM and I really don't want to drive a car that could be protested for illegal mods.

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      Brett in SM your car can still be street enjoyed.Once in CP you will be tempted to strip the interior and add plastic side windows ,I like CP though.If you can get enough guys commited to CP.Then have it back to being a stand alone class again would be cool.It's hard to get guys in CP and be close enough in lap time to our fast XP cars to win the PAX index. ( P1=XP,FP,CP in SDR PAX Combined class) an CP guys don't like the 93 DB limit.Entries tends to build on entries Like we have seen in SM.One or 2 in that class a year ago.If you add SM and the PT guys that jumped into SU..You would have a 16 plus class some events. With PT guys SM body and interior rules open frame rules 78 and older 200tw 4 seat.Plus other ideas to welcome Guys doing Good Guys and other related events.Some of the places they already run have a under 93 DB limit.So are perfect fit for trick Muscle cars at our event!

      Anyway I haven't signed up for Practice Oct19.But come Saturday morning I'll be there just to see if I can get in.If not that's fine .Stadium is 10 minutes from me.
      There will be some interesting cars.Gerald Lum will have his 71 Camaro and a Home built car being called a Bilinski "Midlana" to check out.Both are featured in YOUTUBE videos
      So who can we expect at our Champ or laps day Oct 20. Sunday?We have heard of a few for sures

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      Quote Originally Posted by soloracerSD View Post
      Brett in SM your car can still be street enjoyed.Once in CP you will be tempted to strip the interior and add plastic side windows ,I like CP though.If you can get enough guys commited to CP then have it back to being a stand alone class again would be cool.It's hard to get guys in CP and be close enough in lap time to our fast XP cars to win the PAX index. ( P1=XP,FP,CP in SDR PAX Combined class) an CP guys don't like the 93 DB limit.Entries tends to build on entries Like we have seen in SM.One or 2 in that class a year ago.If you add SM and the PT guys that jumped into SU..You would have a 16 plus class some events. With PT guys SM body and interior rules open frame rules 78 and older 200tw 4 seat live axle.and other ideas is an official welcome mat for Guys doing Good Guys events Also So Cal Challenge.Some of the places they already run have a under 93 DB limit.So are perfect fit for trick Muscle cars at our event!

      Anyway I haven't signed up for Practice Oct19.But come Saturday morning I'll be there just to see if I can get in.If not that's fine .Stadium is 10 minutes from me.
      There will be some interesting cars.Gerald Lum will have his 71 Camaro and a Home built car being called a BILINSKI Midlana to check out.Both are featured in YOUTUBE videos
      So who can we expect at our Champ or laps day Oct 20. Sunday?We have heard of a few for sures
      The bigger plan for my car is to run NASA American Iron or NASA TT. So the car is going to be gutted anyway. I don't want to get stuck on being in SM when I'm building the car for road racing. CP would be perfect for me if they allowed wings but they don't. Classing is a bummer because there's really no home for a setup aggressive as mine except for SU and that's not a nationally prepared class.
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      Have a wing and Spoiler .Wing comes off easy enough.Maybe a second trunk lid ..It's only money ... Oh and the spitter rules are different to I think.

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      Quote Originally Posted by soloracerSD View Post
      Have a wing and Spoiler .Wing comes off easy enough.Maybe a second trunk lid ..It's only money ... Oh and the spitter rules are different to I think.
      problem is that the wing is a part of the sponsorship with Roush-Yates, I can't take it off :(
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      SAN DIEGO AUTOCROSS Sept30 Oct20 Nov18

      Its funny, I dont mind racing against the winged warrior as long as its on 200+ treadware like the rest of us will be. The question is really why would you want to run against a bunch of 60s muscle cars with no aero mods and older suspension designs and no ABS and 91 octane fuel and ... Well, you get the picture...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tomswheels View Post
      Its funny, I dont mind racing against the winged warrior as long as its on 200+ treadware like the rest of us will be. The question is really why would you want to run against a bunch of 60s muscle cars with no aero mods and older suspension designs and no ABS and 91 octane fuel and ... Well, you get the picture...
      trust me it's not that I want to rain on what you guys have in SU. I have absolutely no where else to go with the amount of mods I have. if you guys went to your own PT class as you mentioned I'd have no problem going to SU, because I wouldn't feel like I was stepping on your guys' toes and taking away from the rivalry you guys are having in class. but with everything be done to the car SM is not possible and CP is not possible without upsetting the companies who sent me parts. We'll see what happens after the last event this year, that's when in going to have to make a decision on where to go. Until then I'm going to try and bring home at least 1 1st place in SM lol
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      Quote Originally Posted by iRoush View Post
      trust me it's not that I want to rain on what you guys have in SU. I have absolutely no where else to go with the amount of mods I have. if you guys went to your own PT class as you mentioned I'd have no problem going to SU, because I wouldn't feel like I was stepping on your guys' toes and taking away from the rivalry you guys are having in class. but with everything be done to the car SM is not possible and CP is not possible without upsetting the companies who sent me parts. We'll see what happens after the last event this year, that's when in going to have to make a decision on where to go. Until then I'm going to try and bring home at least 1 1st place in SM lol
      Understood, won't you have to remove stuff for NASA?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tomswheels View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by iRoush View Post
      trust me it's not that I want to rain on what you guys have in SU. I have absolutely no where else to go with the amount of mods I have. if you guys went to your own PT class as you mentioned I'd have no problem going to SU, because I wouldn't feel like I was stepping on your guys' toes and taking away from the rivalry you guys are having in class. but with everything be done to the car SM is not possible and CP is not possible without upsetting the companies who sent me parts. We'll see what happens after the last event this year, that's when in going to have to make a decision on where to go. Until then I'm going to try and bring home at least 1 1st place in SM lol
      Understood, won't you have to remove stuff for NASA?
      Everything I've done to this point is legal for American Iron. Only thing I'd have to do is add some weight ballast because the car is too light to make the power to weight ratio for the class. The power to weight and tires used are really the only limitation for the AI class.
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      Quote Originally Posted by iRoush View Post
      Everything I've done to this point is legal for American Iron. Only thing I'd have to do is add some weight ballast because the car is too light to make the power to weight ratio for the class. The power to weight and tires used are really the only limitation for the AI class.
      Won't you need a roll cage for that and door bars.That will add weight.

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      Quote Originally Posted by soloracerSD View Post
      Won't you need a ruoll cage for that and door bars.That will add weight.
      I have a 4-point bar right now as a base, but yes, Agent 47 told me whenever I'm ready to bring the car over. It's going to come out of that shop completely transformed...

      Ironically, what will be gained from the cage, will be lost on the doors alone. cutting out all the weight from the doors is 80lbs on each door, not to mention replacing all the window glass with lexan

      Again though, I'm not sure what I'm going to do exactly. I know I can't stay in SM, I can't remove my wing, and I don't want to piss off any of you guys in SU. Kind of stuck at this point lol.
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      Quote Originally Posted by iRoush View Post
      I have a 4-point bar right now as a base, but yes, Agent 47 told me whenever I'm ready to bring the car over. It's going to come out of that shop completely transformed...

      Ironically, what will be gained from the cage, will be lost on the doors alone. cutting out all the weight from the doors is 80lbs on each door, not to mention replacing all the window glass with lexan

      Again though, I'm not sure what I'm going to do exactly. I know I can't stay in SM, I can't remove my wing, and I don't want to piss off any of you guys in SU. Kind of stuck at this point lol.
      Sounds CP to Me. Nathan got Keisl in pax FSP vs Em Maybe you can Beat Brian in P1 CPvs XP paxed Nathan made up 6 seconds with his pax.

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      Awesome day today at the Q, Mark showed up in the Chevelle and Gerald Lum in his Camaro, both ran at least one lap in the 63 second range on a fast course with lots of sweepers, perfect for the pro-touring cars. I know Dan the Man and Matt A will be out tomorrow, come out and join us!

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      SAN DIEGO AUTOCROSS Sept30 Oct20 Nov18

      Great job this weekend everybody!
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      SAN DIEGO AUTOCROSS Sept30 Oct20 Nov18

      In the coming weeks I will be selling my Roush 18x9 +28 offset wheels. if any of you are interested let me know, these are the lightest 18" wheels available for the 5x4.5 (5x114.3) pattern without seriously breaking the bank. Asking $800.

      EDIT: well that was quick, i was expecting to have these up for sale for weeks. already sold em lol
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Size:  54.7 KBWE had a good turn out of Pro-Touring(SU) cars to.I haven't seen the results yet but know they laid down some good lap times among all the autocross cars there. In Street Unlimited (SU)I know Matt A was first in his 69 Camaro,Dan W second in the 65 Mustang just a half second behind I think.Mark G third in the 66 Chevelle.I don't know the finishing order of the 66 Fairlane ,the next 65 Mustang or the 5liter 510 Datsun.WE also had a new guy to SCCA driving a bright yellow Charger.Love seeing the larger cars at the autocross!

      In ESP class Tom K in his 2013 Brembo brakes GT Mustang got another win.It's been a while sense he has had one.He was stoked!and he did vomit.Yes that is related to the movie RUSH..

      Next event is just a week away.East Lot this time at Qualcomm Stadium San Diego Nov 3rd COME JOIN US! Dan will fire up the Barbaque!

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      Quote Originally Posted by soloracerSD View Post
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Size:  54.7 KBWE had a good turn out of Pro-Touring(SU) cars to.I haven't seen the results yet but know they laid down some good lap times among all the autocross cars there. In Street Unlimited (SU)I know Matt A was first in his 69 Camaro,Dan W second in the 65 Mustang just a half second behind I think.Mark G third in the 66 Chevelle.I don't know the finishing order of the 66 Fairlane ,the next 65 Mustang or the 5liter 510 Datsun.WE also had a new guy to SCCA driving a bright yellow Charger.Love seeing the larger cars at the autocross!

      In ESP class Tom K in his 2013 Brembo brakes GT Mustang got another win.It's been a while sense he has had one.He was stoked!and he did vomit.Yes that is related to the movie RUSH..

      Next event is just a week away.East Lot this time at Qualcomm Stadium San Diego Nov 3rd COME JOIN US! Dan will fire up the Barbaque!
      Absolutely! We finished al the chassis and driveline work on Adams Charger back in March, he just got it out of paint jail a couple days prior to the event. He should be coming out this weekend as well! DTM Racing Prepped Cars well represented at the last event!

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      Lets see You Co drive it with Adam Dan!? You behind the wheel of that yellow Charger vs Mark's 66 Chevelle and Tyler's 66 Fairlane.Mike in the 65 Stang.That's a race! like on Pinks but no one looses a car.


      Matt and Bryce will be at SEMA don't know about Rich

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      Guys-
      Made this post so that we can track the important content at the top, and nothing gets lost.

      https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...Vintage)-Rules

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      Our next event is the weekend before Good Guys Del Mar.A Saturday preregister Practice 16th.17th Sunday a championship or X Run practice. No Car Class is needed to run.WE do have plenty of car class to choose from if you choose to compete.Running in a car class suiting your car is a lot of fun.It's the best way to know what your car can do.WE can also provide an instructor.

      So tune your driving skills .Then Impress at the Good Guys event the next weekend.Good Guys has done a great job of introduce folks to autocross.WE enjoy seeing how they have grown the sport!.

      If you have any questions just ask

      Nov 17th SU and SM classes run in afternoon so show up at 10:30ish am ESP run morning so be there at 7:30ish am to prepare.

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