Attention!!! Driverz Inc Information

[andrewb70]

Hello Everyone,

Many of you have been posting in the Feedback Forum regarding Driverz Inc.

Jon, the owner of Driverz Inc. has sent the following message to Larry a few minutes ago. Larry is busy at his day job and was not able to make the announcement himself, but he will post later. Everything in bold is from Jon.

Andrew




"Over the past 6 years I've met and helped a lot of you with your wheels, and your cars, and have made some great friends along the way. It is with a very heavy heart that I have to type this and let you all know that Driverz Inc is now forced to close.
Unfortunately, due to a bad business deal between myself, and Travis, it left me and the company in a debt it could not bounce back from. There are many contributing factors to the bad deal, which are to remain between Travis and I, and any further litigation that may take place in the future. Discussing that in an open forum or a chat room is not something we can do, nor is it a good idea.
There has been some left field accusations regarding if Travis was even a real person. Yes, he is a real person, that's assanine to say the least. People even met him at RTTC this year, and have talked to him, and worked with him in the past. Not sure why I'm even responding to that, but I guess it had to be said.
There has also been some claims that Driverz Inc was not a legit corporation. Of course it was, it is registered with a Federal Tax ID 43-2111293 since 2006 when I started the business. As of earlier this year, the corporation that is registered with the California Secretary of State suspended the corporation because it owed its 700 dollar corporation fee to the State, along with a Corporate Minutes and Statement of Information. All of which were filled out, with the new owners name, and were to be filed. Driverz Inc is now CLOSED, and will no longer be doing any business.
There is also a claim that NewGen Wheels, LLC is not a legit business as well. In response, It was filed with Legal Zoom, in December of last year, and as of January has its own Federal Tax ID 45-4298410 If you login to the California Secretary of State website here: http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx , you can see its been registered, and am now waiting on the Statement of Information office to document who the owners are, etc. (This office is 6 months behind, and you can see that here: http://www.sos.ca.gov/business/be/processing-times.htm)
Because of the open debts that I personally signed a guarantee for, for Travis, and because of the debt accrued over the past 4 months of bills not being paid, nobody at the helm, and because my name is what is left on the majority of the shop's bills as a personal guarantor, I have been forced to also file personal bankruptcy. So for all of the conspirators who think I have money hidden in my mattress, you are greatly mistaken. I'd want nothing more than to re-fi the house, or liquidate any personal assets to cover the debt owed by Driverz Inc, but I have nothing left fellas, over the years I've sold cars, re-financed cars, re-financed my parents house, borrowed from Dad's life insurance, sold anything I could to do what it took to at least make sure customers got what they ordered, but the debt on top of the open orders is whats now forcing me to do what I have to, which I wish I didn't. Over the past two weeks, we've had to move out of our shop, and make legal arrangements to first cover my family, and to make sure we were not saying anything we couldn't at the time, and to seek legal representation to help us through what is going to happen from here on in.
If anyone has not received their open orders that were paid to Driverz, Inc, you have the option of contacting your crediting agency. They are your legal protection, and can credit back your credit card after filing a dispute and some paperwork. That is your way of taking care of you. It may be a minor inconvenience, but it is there to help you. Many of you I've already called and said the exact same thing too. Some of you didn't want to listen, and I can't help that, and some of you said you were already doing so, regardless, some of you will at least note I tried to call you tell you what to do. To the super pissed guy who sent a certified letter to my Mom's house, its not going to change the facts at this time that is that Driverz Inc, and Jon Henson are broke. I suggest doing as what was stated a few sentences ago, and order your parts direct from the vendor.

It is to be very clear that NewGen Wheels, LLC is a completely separate entity and business entirely. I realize that moving forward it will only hurt because of it being connected to Driverz Inc, and myself, however, it is a separate entity that is still producing a product and its owners are doing what we can to keep it moving forward. It may take a LONG time for it to regain a good name, or any sort of trust in the market place, but we'll keep moving forward, even if its only for close customers and friends. All open NewGen orders, that were paid to NewGen Wheels, are being processed, although some have been delayed due to the fore mentioned. If you have any questions regarding NewGen Wheels, or your open order with NewGen Wheels, or if you paid Driverz Inc for NewGen Wheels, please contact me at 951-254-3039.
Phone calls and/or emails will be answered in as timely a fashion as possible, although a little slower due to the fore mentioned. I will not be on the forums for awhile after this, as I obviously must dedicate time to the matters at hand, so any PM's that go unanswered please pick up the phone, or send an email. Any responses to the above statement can be answered via phone or email as well.

For what its worth, my sincerest apologies for all those who are caught up in this horrible situation, and I wish that things did not work out this way. Its is unfortunate for all parties involved, well, almost all parties involved, and I hope that most of you take the time to look at this situation objectively and understand that their are a lot of contributing factors that went into this the final outcome. I'm not a member of all the forums people are posting on, nor am I aware of all the threads so I ask that those of you who can, please re-post. Thank you."

[SparkyRnD]

That's a shame, they took the money and put it in their pockets, then file bankruptcy and say 'sorry, oh well' and people don't get their money or their product. But hey, at least NewGen is still going and making money. Pitiful.

[Vicinity]

That's a shame, they took the money and put it in their pockets, then file bankruptcy and say 'sorry, oh well' and people don't get their money or their product. But hey, at least NewGen is still going and making money. Pitiful.

Did you read it? He didn't pocket it. He just didn't manage his money earlier on and racked up business debt, which came and bit him in the ass.

[muthstryker]

These things happen, Deals go wrong all the time. At least Jon was man enough to let everyone know what was going on, unlike previous vendors who have done the same thing with not even as much as a "sorry". It is unfortunate that this happened as I liked Driverz and I like Jon.

On that note, Newgen wheels are in my future.

[parsonsj]

At least Jon was man enough to let everyone know what was going on

I'd just point out that Jon didn't let everyone know. The post above was by a fellow moderator here on PT.com, and one who worked this issue many hours behind the scenes over the past several days.

[GNon18s]

I dont think we need NewGen as a sponsor on this site.

[parsonsj]

I dont think we need NewGen as a sponsor on this site.

They aren't.

[muthstryker]

I'd just point out that Jon didn't let everyone know. The post above was by a fellow moderator here on PT.com, and one who worked this issue many hours behind the scenes over the past several days.

Jon, the owner of Driverz Inc. has sent the following message to Larry a few minutes ago. Larry is busy at his day job and was not able to make the announcement himself, but he will post later. Everything in bold is from Jon.

If the "Bold" isn't in fact Jon's words wouldn't these two statements be false? I know Andrew is the one who did the initial posting but if Jon hadn't of sent Larry anything there would be nothing to post. Maybe I should of worded it a little better.

[parsonsj]

I know Andrew is the one who did the initial posting but if Jon hadn't of sent Larry anything there would be nothing to post.

Jon sent the note above to Larry only after repeated requests from PT.com. Furthermore, Jon could have posted this note himself, and could have done it many days ago. It's a bit like having your lawyer read a statement for you, rather than stand up, say the words yourself, and answer questions.

[Tony_SS]

If anyone has not received their open orders that were paid to Driverz, Inc, you have the option of contacting your crediting agency. They are your legal protection, and can credit back your credit card after filing a dispute and some paperwork. That is your way of taking care of you.

Sorry, but that is just WRONG.

Private individuals pretend to sell parts and steal people's money on forums and go to jail, but someone can hide behind a company name and be denied any responsibility?

Doesn't seem right to me.

[Greg from Aus]

These things happen, Deals go wrong all the time. At least Jon was man enough to let everyone know what was going on, unlike previous vendors who have done the same thing with not even as much as a "sorry". It is unfortunate that this happened as I liked Driverz and I like Jon.

On that note, Newgen wheels are in my future.

You are on DRUGS.

[street3285]

I wanted to post this as clarification for all. I am not, and wasn't the owner of Driverz Inc.. The business deal did not work out, and as a result, I never did become the owner of Driverz, Inc.


I will not comment anymore about the situation.

- Travis

[muthstryker]

LoL ok..

[JEFFTATE]

There's not a lot anybody can do about it now .
Drivers Inc. has gone under and left a lot of people hanging ..
Everybody just has to go through the legal channels and move on .. , Sh*t Happens in life , let it go .
It's just a car hobby ....Let's not let anything take the fun out of it ..

[Fras]

It's not always JUST a hobby. It took me 7 years of saving and slowly building as finances allowed to build a reliable car the proper way that would serve as a daily driver. I understand businesses go under, but a person with integrity doesn't sell boat rides to a sinking ship, which is what they did. They took money knowing damn well no product would be delivered....and even used their religion as propaganda. People HAVE to be on drugs to think that Jon is a victim. I was counting on those wheels and even sold my car to put the final touches on my car thinking it would be a daily driver, when in reality I have a paperweight and am stuck renting a car until I can save up for wheels again. Poor poor driverz...unreal

[Fras]

Just because you never took official ownership Travis doesn't mean you didn't know what was going on and aren't just ad guilty as scamming people.

[CornHusker4Life]

What scares me the most is the ripple effect. I hope people continue to buy products/materials from the small businesses of this hobby/lifestyle. Just because this business was poorly handled does not mean that all small businesses are like this particular one. Please don't run to "Wal-Mart" from now on because of this situation. I am new to this scene and have sent thousands of dollars to people over the internet that I have never met because of the recommendations I found here. In particular Travis (daytonayellaz) and Joe (BullDawg MuscleCars) have been absolutley helpful and have kept me informed daily on my parts and progress on my car. I hope people continue to support the "GOOD" small businesses because that is what makes this country great!!!

[Tony_SS]

What scares me the most is the ripple effect. I hope people continue to buy products/materials from the small businesses of this hobby/lifestyle. Just because this business was poorly handled does not mean that all small businesses are like this particular one. Please don't run to "Wal-Mart" from now on because of this situation. I am new to this scene and have sent thousands of dollars to people over the internet that I have never met because of the recommendations I found here. In particular Travis (daytonayellaz) and Joe (BullDawg MuscleCars) have been absolutley helpful and have kept me informed daily on my parts and progress on my car. I hope people continue to support the "GOOD" small businesses because that is what makes this country great!!!

100% agreed.. this crossed my mind as well. I hope it does not turn off people from supporting all the other vendors here. That's why a transparent feedback system is crucial, and its good to have one here.

[andrewb70]

That's why a transparent feedback system is crucial, and its good to have one here.

Yesterday was the one year anniversary of our Feedback Forum. It can be found here with the rules in a Sticky at the top.

Andrew

[JEFFTATE]

It's not always JUST a hobby. It took me 7 years of saving and slowly building as finances allowed to build a reliable car the proper way that would serve as a daily driver. I understand businesses go under, but a person with integrity doesn't sell boat rides to a sinking ship, which is what they did. They took money knowing damn well no product would be delivered....and even used their religion as propaganda. People HAVE to be on drugs to think that Jon is a victim. I was counting on those wheels and even sold my car to put the final touches on my car thinking it would be a daily driver, when in reality I have a paperweight and am stuck renting a car until I can save up for wheels again. Poor poor driverz...unreal

All I'm saying is , this is bad enough , let's not let it ruin our fun ..
Let's find a way to move past this and continue on ..
I'm not taking up for anybody , I feel your pain .