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    1. #1
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      Aug 2008
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      Houston, TX
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      Carburetor Tuning in Southern California

      Hello guys,

      I've been tinkering with my carburetor and timing for quite some time now to no avail. Engine combination is ZZ383, Air Gap intake, MSD ignition, Quickfuel SS-680cfm-VS, etc. Timing is set at 14 initial/32 total @3000-3200 RPM. TKO-600 into 9" Ford w/ 3:50 gears.

      I recently installed an AEM UEGO wideband AFR gauge into my driver's side exhaust bank. At cruise I am getting AFR's of 12-13:1, idle around 13:1. When I push in my clutch (not braking), the engine drops RPM down to ~500, shudders (AFR goes off the scale, lean, past 17:1), then returns to an 850 RPM idle. The engine gets terrible fuel economy, seems to run pig-rich, lacks throttle response, does not sound crisp, etc. Some days it is better than others (the randomness is what stumps me).

      My previous Quickfuel on my old Camaro bolted on and ran great right out of the box. This one has given me nothing but trouble. Some days she runs really strong with great throttle response, and other days the motor just feels so lazy and I have to give way more throttle to do the same amount of work (and the motor just does not sound as crisp...I know something is off). It seems very random.

      Only other thing I can think of is that my ignition box (6AL-2 Digital), which was pulled from THIS accident, may be damaged. But, I always thought that digital equipment either works or it doesn't, so I figured the box was okay. Now I'm thinking that the erratic-ness of the problem could be something faulty in the ignition module?



      I do not have time to do any major tinkering as I am currently away from home, in college.

      I am looking for a reputable shop/tuner in the Southern California area who still knows their/his/her way around a carburetor and can help me get this car running as it should.

      I seriously appreciate any and all help with this issue.

      Thanks for your time,
      Matt
      Who is wise? One who learns from every man... Who is strong? One who overpowers his inclinations... Who is rich? One who is satisfied with his lot... Who is honorable? One who honors his fellows" - Ben Zoma, Ethics of the Fathers, 4:1


    2. #2
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      What part of SoCal are you in? JR Twedt @ JR Competition in Escondido, CA is incredible with a carb! He is even running a special at his new shop for like $300 for complete carb tune. Call him if it is not to far for you. 760-745-4540
      Shaun

    3. #3
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      Aug 2008
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      Quote Originally Posted by TwinSting View Post
      What part of SoCal are you in? JR Twedt @ JR Competition in Escondido, CA is incredible with a carb! He is even running a special at his new shop for like $300 for complete carb tune. Call him if it is not to far for you. 760-745-4540
      Thanks for the referral Shaun...I'm looking mainly in the Los Angeles area (The San Luis Obispo area/Central Coast also works for me as that is where I'm going to school). Escondido is a bit far, but if I can't find anyone else I may make that trip over spring break.

      Matt
      Who is wise? One who learns from every man... Who is strong? One who overpowers his inclinations... Who is rich? One who is satisfied with his lot... Who is honorable? One who honors his fellows" - Ben Zoma, Ethics of the Fathers, 4:1

    4. #4
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      call these guys they made both my Demons run excellent

      Thank you for support & patience after our fire incident. We are now operational at our temporary
      location. The address is:
      11822 Greenstone ave.
      Santa fe springs, CA 90670

      (562) 946-1388

      Thank you,

      C & J

    5. #5
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      I've also heard nothing but good things about The Carb Shop.

      http://www.customcarbs.com/

      The Carb Shop
      1461 E. Philadelphia
      Ontario, CA 91761
      Phone: (909) 947-3575
      Fax: (909) 947-7495
      Matt

      69 Nova - 357, TKO600, Tru Turn, some other stuff, awaiting LS1 swap
      71 Duster - all stock, slant 6, automatic. awaiting HEMI/T56 swap

    6. #6
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      Quote Originally Posted by surfwagon View Post
      call these guys they made both my Demons run excellent

      Thank you for support & patience after our fire incident. We are now operational at our temporary
      location. The address is:
      11822 Greenstone ave.
      Santa fe springs, CA 90670

      (562) 946-1388

      Thank you,

      C & J
      I'll check em out...do you know the name of the business?

      And I would have taken my car to the Carb Shop but they do not do "on-car" tuning/work.

      Thanks guys, any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

      Matt
      Who is wise? One who learns from every man... Who is strong? One who overpowers his inclinations... Who is rich? One who is satisfied with his lot... Who is honorable? One who honors his fellows" - Ben Zoma, Ethics of the Fathers, 4:1

    7. #7
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      SMI,
      Sean Murphy Induction. I just got my Double Pumper back from them today. Looks good.
      Dan W
      1968 Plymouth Road Runner
      1962 Dodge Dart 440

    8. #8
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      X2 on that, ask for Bob, they can pull your carb and run it on their dyno in order to determine if it's a carb or fuel delivery problem
      Quote Originally Posted by DarkoNova View Post
      I've also heard nothing but good things about The Carb Shop.

      http://www.customcarbs.com/

      The Carb Shop
      1461 E. Philadelphia
      Ontario, CA 91761
      Phone: (909) 947-3575
      Fax: (909) 947-7495
      IF COMMON SENSE WAS COMMON EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE IT

    9. #9
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      Quote Originally Posted by Pro Stock View Post
      X2 on that, ask for Bob, they can pull your carb and run it on their dyno in order to determine if it's a carb or fuel delivery problem
      I can almost guarantee it's not a fuel delivery problem. Brand new Carter Street pump, pushrod (correct one), all new lines, new tank, fuel pressure is 6-6.5psi, new pickup/sock filter, new 100 micron high-flow paper filter post-pump, etc.

      Plus, the engine runs pretty decent wide-open throttle, it's just around-town part-throttle driving and idle that tends to be very erratic.
      Who is wise? One who learns from every man... Who is strong? One who overpowers his inclinations... Who is rich? One who is satisfied with his lot... Who is honorable? One who honors his fellows" - Ben Zoma, Ethics of the Fathers, 4:1

    10. #10
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      C&J Engineering

    11. #11
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      Quote Originally Posted by kryptik View Post
      Hello guys,

      I've been tinkering with my carburetor and timing for quite some time now to no avail. Engine combination is ZZ383, Air Gap intake, MSD ignition, Quickfuel SS-680cfm-VS, etc. Timing is set at 14 initial/32 total @3000-3200 RPM. TKO-600 into 9" Ford w/ 3:50 gears.

      I recently installed an AEM UEGO wideband AFR gauge into my driver's side exhaust bank. At cruise I am getting AFR's of 12-13:1, idle around 13:1. When I push in my clutch (not braking), the engine drops RPM down to ~500, shudders (AFR goes off the scale, lean, past 17:1), then returns to an 850 RPM idle. The engine gets terrible fuel economy, seems to run pig-rich, lacks throttle response, does not sound crisp, etc. Some days it is better than others (the randomness is what stumps me).

      My previous Quickfuel on my old Camaro bolted on and ran great right out of the box. This one has given me nothing but trouble. Some days she runs really strong with great throttle response, and other days the motor just feels so lazy and I have to give way more throttle to do the same amount of work (and the motor just does not sound as crisp...I know something is off). It seems very random.

      Only other thing I can think of is that my ignition box (6AL-2 Digital), which was pulled from THIS accident, may be damaged. But, I always thought that digital equipment either works or it doesn't, so I figured the box was okay. Now I'm thinking that the erratic-ness of the problem could be something faulty in the ignition module?

      I do not have time to do any major tinkering as I am currently away from home, in college.

      I am looking for a reputable shop/tuner in the Southern California area who still knows their/his/her way around a carburetor and can help me get this car running as it should.

      I seriously appreciate any and all help with this issue.

      Thanks for your time,
      Matt
      Matt,
      I know this guy from the PY forum.

      He's a good tuner in Van Nuys
      http://www.hkmotorsportsdynoshop.com/
      SHAKER TUNED SOLUTIONS

    12. #12
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      Quote Originally Posted by Shaker455 View Post
      Matt,
      I know this guy from the PY forum.

      He's a good tuner in Van Nuys
      http://www.hkmotorsportsdynoshop.com/
      Thanks a lot Jeff,

      I'll check it out.

      Cheers,
      Matt
      Who is wise? One who learns from every man... Who is strong? One who overpowers his inclinations... Who is rich? One who is satisfied with his lot... Who is honorable? One who honors his fellows" - Ben Zoma, Ethics of the Fathers, 4:1

    13. #13
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      Nov 2010
      Location
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      Matt,

      I used to go to a guy out in Santa Paula who was pretty good at tuning a carb and was happy to do so with me present and riding along to get a feel for the changes. He taught me a few things and didn't charge much. I can't remember his name, but he and his dad ran a shop called HJK. I'm pretty sure they're still around. He's good at diagnosis too. They work on and build a lot of classic cars.

      HJK Performance Machine
      1401 East Main Street
      Santa Paula, CA 93060-2964
      (805) 525-4453

      I live in Oxnard, not far from TO and I graduated from Cal Poly also (MS mechanical engineering). I'm happy to see you survived the accident in your Camaro.

    14. #14
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      Quote Originally Posted by surfwagon View Post
      C&J Engineering
      X2, C&J have been around for years. The are located in Whittier. http://www.candjengineering.com/
      -Louis
      1967 RS/SS (driver)
      1968 RS/SS (project)

    15. #15
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      Feb 2011
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      Hills of Anaheim
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      C&J did my distributor and does great work
      Matt - 1970 Chevelle

      www.street-demons.com




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