2nd Chance Camaro - Let the Project Begin

[CruizinKev]

Opps forget to tell the wife. Remember it's easier to ask for forgiveness then permission.

LOL thats a good one!!

[syborg tt]

2nd Chance Camaro - Pypes LS1 Block & G-Force Crossmember Install

Pypes LS1 Block & G-Force Crossmember Install
Posted: Sept 026 11 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Instead of installing the LS1 block with a cherry picker I ordered up a Pypes mock up block from www.summitracing.com . Cool product just horrible shipping box as it took 3 of them to get me one that wasn't cracked. All they
did was drop it in a box and ship it ( these were drop shipped direct from Pypes not Summit Racing ) without any packing material.



Picked up a set of American Made Engine set back plates from Edelbrock.



Here is picture of block #3 from Pypes. Seems they are aware of the problem and it there solution is drywall screws and epoxy. I kept this one as it was the best of the 3.





Set back plates worked great. I still have to move the factory Stands back about an inch so the cross member bolts line up.



It looks like the F-Body oil pan is going to work or at least be close.



Empty 700r case that I kept from previous projects



Installed the G-Force Cross member and talk about a great fit. There is plenty of clearance and the lowest point doesn't hang below the stock Sub-Frame.



I need to move the motor back about an inch. Really happy as there is plenty of room up front to move the motor back.



Since the car will be sitting pretty low with the new Ride-Tech Coil-Over suspension I wanted to make sure the cross member wouldn't hit the ground and the guys at G-Force did a great job.



www.boommat.com


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[fladoans]

Looks like the teardown is coming along great. And there's still plenty of room in the garage for all those new parts! Keep the pictures coming.

[syborg tt]

2nd Chance Camaro -*ProTek Powder Coating Time for Media Blasting

ProTek Powder Coating Time for Media Blasting
Posted: Nov Nov 16, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning,

The car is in the hands of Jay over at ProTek Media blasting. In a couple days we are finally going to know what is hiding under what's left of the paint.



You can see the car took a small hit on the Drivers Side rear but it*doesn't look to bad.



Mario & I both agreed that I should look for a new rear panel since this one is to far gone. Time to see if Tom from Courtyard Camaro (( [email protected]*)) *has a NOS piece he is willing to sell. If you need Camaro parts he is your guy.



We've got a few holes to fix*from previous body work.



Really, right on the body line - that stinks.



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[syborg tt]

2011 12-04 Update - ProTek Powder Coating Time for Media Blasting Part 2

2011 12-04 Update - ProTek Powder Coating Time for Media Blasting Part 2
Posted: Dec 03, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com
Good Morning All,

Quick Update from Media Blasting - Car is looking really good











more pictures to come this week.....

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[syborg tt]

2011 12-06 Update - ProTek Powder Coating Time for Media Blasting Part 3

2011 12-06 Update - ProTek Powder Coating Time for Media Blasting Part 3
Posted: Dec 06, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening All,

Getting closer and the car looks really nice

www.propowder.com











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[syborg tt]

2nd Chance Camaro - Heading Back to US Collision Part 1

2011 12-09 Update - Heading Back to US Collision Part 1
Posted: Dec 09, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning All,

The car is complete and heading back to US Collision for primer.



Getting the car in the trailer was easy. About a year ago my buddy Don at Village Auto installed an electric winch.



Time to remove all of the original caulk.





Close up of the only body damage on the shell.



You can see the trunk floor has a little wrinkle in it. I might leave it there after we replace the tail panel. You have to keep some of the cars history.



I want to thank Jay for doing such a great job on the car.

www.propowder.com

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[syborg tt]

2nd Chance Camaro - Going to get Blasted

2012 01-06 Update - Going to get Blasted

Posted: Jan 06, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning All,

Wow am I far behind posting pictures and yes these pictures are from almost a year ago.

With the car over at US Collision it was time to start working on the sub-frame. Yep another trip to Pro-Tek Powder Coating
to get the sub-frame blasted. I just hate working with dirty or rusty parts. Call me a neat freak but I like a clean work enviroment.



The frame is pretty much rust free and the should be fairly easy for Jay to blast.



Now that the frame is blasted I can haul it to High Speed Welding. www.highspeedwelding.com Stubby is going to clean
up the welds and add some new weld to stiffen up the frame. Not going crazy just a little clean up.



New Product Update: www.kore3.com

New Brakes arrived from Tobin at Kore3. The price was incredible and it has factory reliability what more could you ask for. Did I mention Tobin has to be one of the nicest vendors I have ever worked with.





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[syborg tt]

2nd Chance Camaro - Cleaning up the old Weld

2012 01-08 Update - Cleaning up the old Welds
Posted: Jan 08, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com


Good Morning All,

The guys at High Speed Welding did a great job cleaning up the old welds. I'm very happy with the progress.









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[syborg tt]

2nd Chance Camaro - Close up of the Welds

2012 01-10 Update - Close up of the Welds
Posted: Jan 10, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening all,

As promised here are a few pictures of the new welds

[syborg tt]

2nd Chance Camaro - New Tail Panel

2012 01-10 Update - New Tail Panel
Posted: Jan 14, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning ,

New parts seem to be showing up on a daily basis. I ordered a new tail panel from Tamraz and this is how they shipped it. The good news it arrived unharmed.







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[syborg tt]

2nd Chance Camaro - Bring the Shell Home
2012 01-10 Update - Bringing the shell home
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Afternoon all,

Mario and the guys at US Collision did a great job on the shell and now it's my turn to get back to work on the car.







Once again I can't thank Mario enough for letting me borrow is rotisserie.

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[syborg tt]

2nd Chance Camaro - A Little Touch Up

2012 01-10 Update - A Little Touch Up
Posted: Jan 25, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening all,

Now that the car is home and my little helpers are ready and willing to help. A few area's needed a little more primer so my oldest
volunteered to spray a little more primer on the car. It's important to keep your kids involved in every thing that is how they learn.



Daddy -- Not to worry Kenny can sand it out.



While the car is on the rotisserie I sprayed all of the hidden area's of the frame rails with Eastwoods Rust Convertor.



Final parting shot.

[E.rodz]

Marty I hope everything is going well for you! I am glad you are deep into another project.maybe you should start getting your daughters advice as how they will want it done. because I am putting money on they will be old enough to drive when you finish it.LOL this time you might have to keep it long enough to enjoy the driving part of it!. keep up the good work but if the kids decide they want to build a custom bike do it! you will never regret it.

[syborg tt]

Marty I hope everything is going well for you! I am glad you are deep into another project.maybe you should start getting your daughters advice as how they will want it done. because I am putting money on they will be old enough to drive when you finish it.LOL this time you might have to keep it long enough to enjoy the driving part of it!. keep up the good work but if the kids decide they want to build a custom bike do it! you will never regret it.

okay I deserved that. Kenny & I both agree it's more fun to build them then it is to clean them.

[E.rodz]

okay I deserved that. Kenny & I both agree it's more fun to build them then it is to clean them.

I know how it feels. I started remodeling my shop three years ago thinking it was going to take 6 months.kids and family come first! your dreams can wait your kids are only young once.just keep on pluging away buddy.

[syborg tt]

Good Evening All,

Now that the shell is ready for construction it's time to post up the build outline. The main purpose of this car is to be a Mountain Bike Hauler since Mountain Biking is my first love with Car shows being a close second. The goal is to combine my the two and have the ability to drive to all of the nearby Good Guys Show and then on the way home hit the nearby trails. With that being said the car has to be dual purpose built. It needs to have a good set of street tire and then have an extra set of tires for the Good Guys Events.

Last year at Good Guys Columbus I fell in love with a very understated Mustang built by Pinkee's Hot Rods. If you pick up the last months issue of Popular Hot Rodding you can see the feature they did on the car. After reading that article I new I was heading in the right direction.

We are going to try to stick with the Vintage Race Car Theme without being overstated since I want to be able to street drive the car and not get pulled over every time I drive the car. And then there is that Mountain Bike issue where are we going to put the bike. Let's just say that this is going to freak some of you out and others are going to think it's awesome.



There are a couple other cars that has truly inspired me and this build. When the car heads to a track event I will print up some removable decals that will instantly make it look more like a Vintage TA race car. Kinda like this beast.



I have looked at this car for at the last couple years and I just love the look. So this car will also lend some idea's to the build.



another very clean build.



As for modification - most of them will be simple. The car will be mostly bolt together with very reliable part and most importantly something that if I break down they won't leave me Stranded.

Wheels & Tires
18 x 10 Rear - Billet Specialties MagG Wheels www.billetspecialties.com
BFG KDW2 - 295 40 18 www.bfgoodrichtires.com
18 x 8 Front - Billet Specialties MagG Wheels
BFG KDW2 - 255 40 18

Chassis
Ride Tech Coil Ride Suspension www.ridetech.com
MuscleBar Swaybar
Tie Rod Adjuster

G-Brace w/Cowl Brace www.pro-touringf-body.com
DSE Aluminum Body Bushings www.detroitspeed.com
DSE Subframe Connectors

Flaming River Steering Shaft www.flamingriver.com
Flaming Rivers Steering Box

Eaton Differential
TA Cover www.summitracing.com

Brakes
DSE Brake Booster with reduced angle brackets
Kore 3 C5/C6 Brakes www.kore3.com

SS Brake Lines
SS Braided Brake Hoses
Quick Clips Line Clamps www.quickclips.org

Engine & Transmission
LS1 Short Block
Wegner Serpentine Alt P-Side www.wegnerautomotive.com
Edelbrock Motor Plates
Energy Suspension Motor Plates

Edelbrock Camshaft www.edelbrock.com
Edelbrock Heads
Edelbrock Intake
Edelbrock Carb

Edelbrock Shorty Headers
Floor Heat Shields
Edelbrock Stainless Exhaust Polished www.highspeedwelding.com

Bowler 4L60e Transmission www.bowlertransmissions.com
Bowler Billet Torque Convertor

Cooling
Afco Aluminum Radiator www.afcoracing.com
Afco Fan closeout
Vintage Air A/C Condensor www.vintageair.com

fuel delivery
Edelbrock fuel pump
Edelbrock fuel pressure regulator
Black Push lock Earls fittings

Stock Fuel Tank www.goodmarkindustries.com
SS Tank Straps

SS Fuel Lines
Quick Clips Line Clamps

Electrical
AAW Custom wire harness www.americanautowire.com
Tech Flex Wire Wrap www.techflex.com
Phantom Keyless Entry www.phantom-products.com

No Frills Billet battery Front Mount Battery Tray www.hoodpins.net
optima red top Battery

DSE Wiper Motor
DSE 7" High Density Lights

Interior
Autometer Guages www.autometer.com
Anvil Carbon Fiber Dash www.anvilauto.com

Vintage Air Factory Fit A/C www.vintageair.com

GM Tilt Column www.gmtiltcolumn.com

Precision Billet Brake Arm
Precision Billet Brake Pedal
Precision Billet Gas Pedals

Ride Tech Cage Tiger Cage www.ridetech.com
4 Point Restraints www.seatbeltplanet.com
4 Point Restraints - Rear Seat

Stock Door Panels
Rear Kick Panel Widened

Kenwood Head Unit
Kicker 5 Channel Amplifier www.kicker.com
Kicker 5 1/4" Round Speaker
Kicker 6 x 9 Speaker
Kicker 10" Subwoofer

Stock Buckets Seats Re-Foamed by Recovery Room Interiors www.recoveryroomrodinteriors.com
Stock Rear Seat Narrowed

Paint & Body Details www.kdhotrods.com
Anvil Closeout Panel www.anvil.com
Custom Works Radiator Cover www.customworksproducts.com
Ride Tech Fender Braces

DSE A/C Closeout Panel

Billet Kruzer Hood pins - black finish www.hoodpins.net
Stock Hinges filled, drilled & plated
No Frills Prop Rod

No Frills Custom Bike Rack www.highspeedwelding.com

Rocky Mounts www.rockymounts.com

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[syborg tt]

2nd Chance Camaro - Installing the Ride Tech Air Bar

2012 02-21 Update - Installing the Ride Tech Air Bar www.2ndchancecamaro.com


Good Morning,

Now the fun begins.

The goal with this project is to teach people what I've learned from the last build. The main purpose is to keep people from losing there project because of poor planning. Planning isn't just writing down what you want the end product to look like it's actually being honest with yourself and making sure you have the time, money and the resources to actually build your dream car.

The plan is to show the option/cost you can do just for the rear suspension.
1. Leaf Springs Similar to Hotchkis
a. Benefits of keeping your leaf springs is cost is minimal and the car isn't going to be out of service.
b. Most backyard mechanics can do this swap in there garage or even a driveway.
c. Easy exhaust routing ( keeps your costs down when running exhaust )
d. There is a good chance you are going to be able to find an aftermarket exhaust or even use your existing exhaust

2. Diagonal 4-Bar Similar to Ride Tech
a. Benefit of this set up is cost isn't much more then leaf springs and is very adjustable.
b. There is minimal welding that can be done by any experienced welder.
c. Custom exhaust is a necessity

3. Weld in 4-Link Similar to DSE
a. Cost is more then a Diagonal 4-Bar
b. Your going to need a shop or have a good deal of Fabrication skills
c. Very adjustable
d. Custom exhaust is a necessity

So for this project I choose to go with the Ride Tech Air-Bar Set up using the single Adjustable Coilovers. I can do most of the preliminary work in my garage and haul it over the High Speed Welding and have Jr. set the Pinion angle and weld the brackets on the Axle.

Here is the Ride-Tech Bracket mocked up on the car the drivers side was a perfect fit. The passenger side needs a little adjusting to make it work.




After I located the bracket on the frame rails I held it in place with a good set of clamps. After that all I had to do was drill a few holes in the floor and the upper bracket was in place.



Here is a close up of how the bracket hit the floor on the passenger side. Since all of these cars are slightly different you can't expect them to fit perfectly. It's funny I was talking with Ron and his passenger side fit perfect and the drivers side was just a little off.




Once the car arrives at High Speed Welding they will flattened the bracket so it would line up with the floor. Very simple fix.

So be honest with yourself if the car your working is you only car then you should go the leaf spring route. If you don't have to worry about the car being down for a couple days then step up to the Ride Tech suspension.

More to come later this week.

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[syborg tt]

2nd Chance Camaro - Mocking up the Subframe
2012 03-04 Update - Mocking up the Subframe
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Good Evening,

Since the goal with this car is to use as many bolt-on's as possible and limit the custom fabrication which can drive the build cost up and sometimes spirals projects out of control. If you have an unlimited budget and money is no object then you don't have to worry about it. However, most projects are built on a very strict budget these days, this one included. I learned a lot building Syborg and let me tell you there are plenty of places I could have and should have saved money. One of the reason I picked a Camaro is there are plenty of parts available and also a very wise man that will only go by the name "Bob" once said to me when you build something make sure there will be plenty of buyers when it's complete. Remember, you may not have any intentions of selling your project but no one knows what the future holds. So when you looking to build something stay true to your goals which should include a realistic budget of time, money and skill.

With the sub-frame back in the garage it was time to assemble all of these bolt-on parts. I also felt that it is important to involve my daughters and some of our friends kids.



Installing the custom G-Force crossmember was fairly easy with the subframe out of the car.



You can see my little helper putting the bolts in for the engine stands. I think she was having more fun then me.



and this picture proves it.



I think she did a great job



Our neighbors son happened to be over so I figured I would let him bolt in the G-Force Crossmember.



He did such a great job installing the crossmember I figured I would let him install the Edelbrock headers. In a previous post I think I mentioned that these are for a 2010 Camaro. With a little modification they will work perfect and we will be able to tuck them up nice and high so they are not visible when you look under the car. This part is another example of an off the shelf header that will require minor modification which will keep the overall build cost down.




More to come later this week.

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[syborg tt]

2nd Chance Camaro - Rear Axle Prep

2012 03-22 Update - Rear Axle Prep
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Good Morning all,

It's time to get the rear suspension on the car so I can get it off Mario's Rotissorie. The Rear suspension is a pretty straight forward install.



My oldest daughter figured I was hungry so she made me lunch. Now that is a good kid!



Since the upper link bar brackets needs to be welded to the axle I wanted to make sure the Powder Coating wouldn't get damaged on the
upper bars. Time to take stock in the 3m Blue Painters Tape.



Lower Bar installed



I just like this picture.



I needed to get the rear differential in the trailer so my daughter Kenzie and I installed the rear tires so she could roll the rear differential into the trailer.




and yes she did it all by herself. Man is this little girl strong.



In the trailer and heading over to High Speed Welding so they can weld on the rear differential brackets.



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