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    Thread: Bear Brakes

    1. #1
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      Bear Brakes

      I am working on a 69 mustang and it is time to start on the brakes. Who has the best price on Bear brakes. I am looking for a four wheel set up dont know what size price may help make that decision. Thanks for any info.



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      This place has the best prices I have seen. Be forewarned Baer is extremely backed up with orders right now and it may be a while until you get what you order.

      TByrne Motorports
      1227 Horseneck Road
      Westport, MA 02790
      tbyrnemotorsports

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      If you just can't get it done with Baer......Wilwood

      I am a Wilwood dealer and have made many happy with kits on this forum. Watch for Mike Flower (F1speed) and Raul Gonzlez (Kustom_Dude) both have Chevelles and both should be posting up pics soon! Both were custom kits and the for the pricing unbeatable 6 Piston Superlite calipers on a 14" rotor in Front!!! Mike's kit left a couple days ago.

      Here is your pricing should Wilwood parts be your provider of choice:
      Front kit:
      140-4304-B $651.95 12.19"X.866" 2pcs with rotor adapters,Rotors Plain(Cross-Drilled and slotted optional), 4 Piston Wilwood Dynalite calipers, Pads, Hardware, Billet aluminum hubs(probably the best looking you've ever set eyes on), bearings and seals, brackets, spacers and Instrux.

      Rear kit:
      140-7139 $618.75 12.19"X.866" 11.00"X.866" Rotors Plain(Cross-Drilled and slotted optional), 4 Piston Wilwood Dynalite calipers, Pads, Hardware, Internal to rotor hat park brake provisions, brackets spacers, backing plate and Instrux.

      And as usual from this forum FREE shipping in the U.S and a 6 pack of 12oz. bottles of Wilwood 570 Race Brake fluid.

      Ltorres
      1 866 992 7253 or
      mailto:[email protected]

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      WOW! That sounds great. I will be in contact soon thanks alot for the info.

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      How much for the six piston 14" rotor for a 70 Chevelle?

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      hey how about a GP on Wilwoods! need info for a 67 Camaro

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      Gotta have Baer Trac system

      Quote Originally Posted by 4MuscleMachinesMan
      How much for the six piston 14" rotor for a 70 Chevelle?
      The kit I have for the 70' Chevelle was custom built to fit the Baer Track System with B-Body spindles!!! Since it is ready to go and this being the same deal as Mike and Raul. I could sell the front to you for around $1795.00 and the of course Free shipping and Fluid.

      You would then of course need to contact Baer and Price the Trac system(spindles and hubs)!!

      Ltorres

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      GP? Guess your wanting a price.....

      Quote Originally Posted by texasdvldog
      hey how about a GP on Wilwoods! need info for a 67 Camaro
      Front kit:
      140-2285 $651.95 11.00"X.866" 2pcs with rotor adapters,Rotors Plain(Cross-Drilled and slotted optional), 4 Piston Wilwood Dynalite calipers, Pads, Hardware, Billet aluminum hubs(probably the best looking you've ever set eyes on), bearings and seals, brackets, spacers and Instrux.

      Rear kit:
      140-7144 $618.75 12.19"X.866" 11.00"X.866" Rotors Plain(Cross-Drilled and slotted optional), 4 Piston Wilwood Dynalite calipers, Pads, Hardware, Internal to rotor hat park brake provisions, brackets spacers, backing plate and Instrux.

      Oh yeah, FYI we're doing 5% off when the front/rear are purchased together!!

      Free fluid (6 pack of 12oz bottles of 570 Wilwood) and shipping in the US

      Ltorres

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      LTorres, what's your experience with warpage? The normal Wilwood 12.19" rotors are .81" thick I believe - I noticed you list yours at .866". In any event, I've been under the impression that anything less than 1.0" wide is prone to warpage, as there isn't enough "meat" there to absorb heat.

      Also, which Wilwood master cylinder do you recommend with your 4 wheel disc brake setup (specifically for a manual brake setup).

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      Also, is it possible to upgrade to a 6 piston caliper on the front - while still using the 12.19" rotors?

      I know that Wilwood doesn't offer a kit like that - but they offer a whole ton of different calipers for racing applications. I wonder if one could be made to work.

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      Regarding rotors and Master cylinder

      Quote Originally Posted by CFster
      LTorres, what's your experience with warpage? The normal Wilwood 12.19" rotors are .81" thick I believe - I noticed you list yours at .866". In any event, I've been under the impression that anything less than 1.0" wide is prone to warpage, as there isn't enough "meat" there to absorb heat.

      Also, which Wilwood master cylinder do you recommend with your 4 wheel disc brake setup (specifically for a manual brake setup).

      As with any rotor it is a obvious fact that less mass, would lead one to believe that warpage should be a major concern. Thicker would be better and for a bit more $$ I can price a 12.19" rotor up to 1.10 thick. The idea being that not all rotors are created equally. If every performance part were equal. Competition would not be here because we'd all be running the same parts! The Wilwood rotors like our own undergo some pretty grueling process upon inception. Furthermore, in all the years we've used there rotors or our own for the like. I never end up with returns on the .810" or .866" rotors. Has anyone else on this Forum had issues?

      We recommend the 1" bore with Manual Brakes part# 260-8555
      We recommend the 1 1/8" for Power Brakes part# 260-8556

      Hope this helps!!

      Ltorres

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      Regarding calilpers

      Quote Originally Posted by CFster
      Also, is it possible to upgrade to a 6 piston caliper on the front - while still using the 12.19" rotors?

      I know that Wilwood doesn't offer a kit like that - but they offer a whole ton of different calipers for racing applications. I wonder if one could be made to work.

      Yes....the Forged Superlite 6 piston and Billet 6 piston Bridge Radius will clear a rotor from 11.75"-13.00". They could be made to work

      Ltorres

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      Torres, Sent PM regarding pricing on kit. Thanks Brian

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      Quote Originally Posted by LTorres
      As with any rotor it is a obvious fact that less mass, would lead one to believe that warpage should be a major concern. Thicker would be better and for a bit more $$ I can price a 12.19" rotor up to 1.10 thick. The idea being that not all rotors are created equally. If every performance part were equal. Competition would not be here because we'd all be running the same parts! The Wilwood rotors like our own undergo some pretty grueling process upon inception. Furthermore, in all the years we've used there rotors or our own for the like. I never end up with returns on the .810" or .866" rotors. Has anyone else on this Forum had issues?

      We recommend the 1" bore with Manual Brakes part# 260-8555
      We recommend the 1 1/8" for Power Brakes part# 260-8556

      Hope this helps!!

      Ltorres
      Thanks for the reply.

      I currently have a 140-7017 Dynalite Big Brake Front Hub Kit (for Mustang II spindles). I've gone back and forth with Wilwood over this. They say that a wider rotor cant work with the rotor adapter in this kit.

      Those wider rotors you offer, are they only possible with a front HAT kit, not the front HUB kit? I guess the same goes for the Superlite Calipers?

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      How about on a '71 Plymouth Cuda that has '73 front spindles and on a 8.75" rear?

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      Quote Originally Posted by CFster
      Thanks for the reply.

      I currently have a 140-7017 Dynalite Big Brake Front Hub Kit (for Mustang II spindles). I've gone back and forth with Wilwood over this. They say that a wider rotor cant work with the rotor adapter in this kit.

      Those wider rotors you offer, are they only possible with a front HAT kit, not the front HUB kit? I guess the same goes for the Superlite Calipers?

      You are correct it would consist of discarding the rotor adapter and using an alternate 2pce rotor and hat. You would also need to change out the calipers in you kit from 120-6816 to the wider 120-6815. (Both have the same diameter bore).Except yours is for .810" the other will fit up to 1.00".

      Ltorres

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      Funny You should ask!!

      Quote Originally Posted by Limecuda
      How about on a '71 Plymouth Cuda that has '73 front spindles and on a 8.75" rear?
      We just sent Bill Stevens in Siusun, CA. Kits for his 71' Cuda. Much to his surprise when he got the kit it came with 10.75" front rotors. Since the Wilwood kit for the rear with Park Brake is 12.19" he wasn't liking it too much. We are now custom building the front Cuda kit with spindles to accept a 12.19" rotor to match the rear. But then again that is why we are here. If Wilwood does not have it.....We will build it for you. Call me at 1 866 992 7253 as this is a custom kit and much I would need to discuss with you.

      Ltorres




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