why so much cheese??

[shortrack]

was going to cut the fender lips out of the rear to move them up for tire clearance tonight.....its obvious the car has had quarters, its plain to see from inside the trunk.....I figure I'll sand off a little paint, get to bare metal and have at 'er....WRONG.....the whole quarter has like a 16th to an 8th of an inch of bondo over the whole thing!.....why would you do that with new quarters?

btw I can only see 2 paint jobs......factory b nut yellow then to black......Im going to have to take the shell to the sandblaster now.....WTH?

[jy211]

LOL, your always surprised what you find under paint. I had about 1/2 to 1"
of filler on one of my replaced quarters. It's like WTH, do it right once...

[ROBS6T8]

Haven't you watched all these new shows like Musclecar and such.... it seems they always spread a thin layer of filler on the entire car~!!! That's a lot of fricken sanding. It could be brand new metal and they still spread it on the entire panel? Perfectionist or crazy? lol

[AintQik]

They used poly primer on my car. It thick, almost like spraying the whole car with bondo! Only way to get it razor sharp.

You don't need as much as you had though. Probaby a fitment issue that they were too lazy to fix. My new quarters had to be split, and rebuilt to get the radius right. After market panels fit like crap. So, spend serious cheese on getting them right, or slather them with cheese and make em work.

[kochevy67]

A skim coat is always put over the entire car to achieve straight panels. The factory or aftermarket panels are wavy to say the least.

[2Bad4Ya]

was going to cut the fender lips out of the rear to move them up for tire clearance tonight.....its obvious the car has had quarters, its plain to see from inside the trunk.....I figure I'll sand off a little paint, get to bare metal and have at 'er....WRONG.....the whole quarter has like a 16th to an 8th of an inch of bondo over the whole thing!.....why would you do that with new quarters?

btw I can only see 2 paint jobs......factory b nut yellow then to black......Im going to have to take the shell to the sandblaster now.....WTH?

No surprised o see filler on new quarters, if the person welding them on was not a good welder then you get warping etc... or the panels could be hung poorly and wavey... so filler is used to clean up the poor quarter replacement or quality of the replacement part itself.

[MrQuick]

I don't care how good a metal worker thinks he is. Filler will still be needed to get a perfect line and panel razor straight. I would not do otherwise when going with a dark color.

Filler will always have a negative persona,even at a 1/16" thickness.

I would not blast the whole car just to take care of a section, you will end up with a crappy paint job or more filler and more work.

*edit



if this is the car you are working on, blast away. over




vince

[2Bad4Ya]

hehehe yeah 1/16 is nothing comapred to some of the skulpting out there, I have seen screen door mesh and about 1 inch or so of mud used to rebuild a fender lip.

[MrQuick]

seen my work have you? LOL

just kidding, no not really.
vince

[b-man]

If the panels look straight and the filler is not cracking or in otherwise bad shape leave it be.

Just remove what you need to do your body mods, there's nothing wrong with using a thin layer of filler to take all of the imperfections out of a panel.

[JRouche]

.I figure I'll sand off a little paint, get to bare metal and have at 'er....WRONG.....the whole quarter has like a 16th to an 8th of an inch of bondo over the whole thing!.....why would you do that with new quarters?

I kinda agree with you. On a new Q install there isnt a reason to skim the entire panel like that unless they really warped it during the welding and had to bang it back into shape.

I agree a full skim coat of plastic is sometimes needed for original metal, stuff that has been worked over for many years of small dings and dents. After all the hammer and dolly work. Its all you can do to make the metal smooth again.

But for a new Q it doesnt have all the hammer and dolly work done to the major portions. So those portions should be smooth as from the die that pressed them.

If its been completely smeared with a smoothing filler they may have replaced the Q with a panel from a doaner car. So it needed some body work and then the filler to make it smooth.

Or the entire car was sprayed with some poly filler. Thats common these days. But that isnt usually more than about a 1/16" after it has been blocked down. The poly spray job folks do is a decent process. As long as its blocked down like it should be. JR

[shortrack]

hey guys.....thanks for the replies......Im back on speaking terms with my car now (haha) and yes the car in the photo above is the car Im working on.....what Ive decided to do is to simply cut the wheelwells out and leave them as cut.....the "fender lip" isnt really a fender lip at all, its there but its under a bunch of bondo so I cant simply "re attach it" like I had planned anyway....

I agree it'd be way too much work to blast it all out Id end up with more filler and more work.....in the end (after some soul searching) the car will be a track day/streetfighter type of car anyway not a billet showcar so I'll get on wid it.

I watch the shows and they do seem to put a layer over everything regardless....is that the way to do it these days?.....I thought thats what high build primer was for??